One of the best 3 episodes in BL history. Too bad the s-runners didn't give us a payoff of Elise vs. Samar in mortal combat . . . . .she really morphed into a cat-woman fast, huh?
Red getting a flesh wound from Kirk on the roof - wonder if Liz is smart enough to scoop up some blood and run tests? What would she find?

One other thought for the night.

Red clearly wanted to isolate Kirk and kill him not have him captured.  He said to harold that if he didn't their work at the Post Office could not continue, and he looked towards Liz.  Why?  I think Red is concerned about Kirk revealing something and maybe not just to Liz.  I also think part of the reason why he wanted to kill Kirk back in Season 3 was not just to avenge Liz's "death".  I think Kirk may be dangerous for another reason....

I'm confused, as well, and given that it's been a long week, I'll hold off on extensive commenting until I've seen the episode again.

What's significant to me at the moment: Red told Harold that Kirk wasn't even on the list until he came after Liz.

And I don't think Liz's mom is dead. 

Tuxie400 - Kirk in the box - mirror images again of Red!  and didn't the frame of the box look white?

Red and white - color theme running through the series.......hmmmm

Just a few random thoughts...
I don't think Aram has it In him to hurt a woman. I was surprised he hit her at all.
I think Liz and Red made that plan because he was saying she left 10 minutes before them.....

Kirk said , This man, he took your mother away from us and he took you from me. Maybe he was the one she ran off with?

How about that look of shock about the DNA report?

 

And poor Kate!  I figured he was going to go get a camera. 

I really am thinking that Cooper knew Red was going to turn himself in.

My thoughts are going a mile a minute after this one! lol

Probably his with Kirks name, lol

Eastcoast, I have wondered that about Harold from time to time.  That he knew more than he let on.
The way he spoke to Red in the Post Office after Liz "died".  Like he had a deeper understanding of what Red was going through.

I think Red had to have someone in the FBI in order to coordinate the day of turning himself in to the first start day for Liz.  He had to have someone let him know that.  It doesn't have to be Harold, but he's an option.  and someone had ordered the Red "file" about two months before he turned himself in if I remember correctly

OK signing off, before I write something crazy!  LOL

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Tuxie400 - glad that you mentioned that about the baby.  it does look like a different baby to me as well.  I thought maybe they had to substitute the baby (in real life) for some reason.  At least, I'm hoping that Liz would recognize if it were not her child!

but it does look like a different baby, even from ep 4.01....

Edited to add:  but yes it would be cool if it were a switch, a mirror image and maybe a mirror image of Liz/Masha switch (if there was one).

Which I'm thinking may be an answer to the confusion.  So Kirk is really Masha's father in this episode.....but LIz is not Masha.  Maybe that is what Red is worried about as the thing that might be pieced together.....

we certainly have more questions than answers!

Last edited by lara1 (10/27/2016 10:41 pm)

Eastcoast wrote:

Just a few random thoughts...
I don't think Aram has it In him to hurt a woman. I was surprised he hit her at all.
I think Liz and Red made that plan because he was saying she left 10 minutes before them.....

Kirk said , This man, he took your mother away from us and he took you from me. Maybe he was the one she ran off with?

How about that look of shock about the DNA report?

 

I think Aram's self-survival mode kicked in after he realized Elise wasn't there for banana time! However, he was no match for a trained martial artist - despite his size advantage!