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4/28/2017 7:59 pm  #21


Re: Episode 4.19 info

From the Canadian spoiler it looks like they target Ressler for some kind of memory experiments, there's a scene where they put a needle into his neck (yuck!) and he's sedated and strapped down in Dr. Krilov's creepy lab. Plus it looks like the memory doctor from Luther Braxton is back but I suspect she's hired by Kaplan for nefarious means, i.e. to force out the memories Reddington had suppressed.
 


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

4/28/2017 8:44 pm  #22


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lara1 wrote:

Yes, I think  a lot of buried secrets are going to be excavated, as well as those bodies.

There have been a few "buried" references around again :  Cooper:  What have you dug up on Dembe?  Kaplan: is going to bury Red, and so on, I caught a couple more, not including the actual bodies buried across these last 3 episodes.

Some of us have long thought that Cooper has a secret and is not all that he seems.  It will be interesting to find out what may be up with him.  JB's words are interesting:  he has an ace that he's holding.  At the same time its a very big secret.  So does he play that ace (cards again) to save himself, save the Task Force, save Red, destroy Red etc., we don't know.  really interesting.

And don't forget that Nikita Krushchev said he would bury us.

Last edited by Honey West (4/28/2017 8:44 pm)


“I am exactly who I am. And I can assure you, I’m a far more interesting Raymond Reddington than Raymond Reddington ever was."
 

4/28/2017 9:04 pm  #23


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So I've been thinking about the memory stuff.  Liz's memories weren't erased, they were replaced with different ones.  So when the doctor in Luther Braxton worked her magic to get liz to remember, it wasn't helpful because what Liz remembered is all scrambled anyway.

So this will be interesting - can the doctor determine which "memories" are real and which are not in order to restore the ones that are not, back into what they should be?  The "truth".    

And, does anyone even know what that truth is?

 

4/30/2017 1:24 pm  #24


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Getty Images has Dr. Bogan Krilov listed as #29 on the Blacklist. We seem to be featuring people much higher on the list.


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

5/02/2017 9:53 am  #25


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Honey West wrote:

lara1 wrote:

Yes, I think  a lot of buried secrets are going to be excavated, as well as those bodies.

There have been a few "buried" references around again :  Cooper:  What have you dug up on Dembe?  Kaplan: is going to bury Red, and so on, I caught a couple more, not including the actual bodies buried across these last 3 episodes.

Some of us have long thought that Cooper has a secret and is not all that he seems.  It will be interesting to find out what may be up with him.  JB's words are interesting:  he has an ace that he's holding.  At the same time its a very big secret.  So does he play that ace (cards again) to save himself, save the Task Force, save Red, destroy Red etc., we don't know.  really interesting.

And don't forget that Nikita Krushchev said he would bury us.

I meant to post on here before. For some reason I was thinking of that presidential limousine buried in the bowels of the Kenyon family. 

I still think there's something 'buried' underneath Liz's scar. I know that's not it, but dang, wouldn't it be interesting?


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

5/02/2017 10:35 am  #26


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Tatiana #25 - that's an interesting thought.  There's a lot about scars in the series, the Courier being the closest "match" - almost everyone has one or more (Red, Dembe,Liz, Tom, Cooper, Ressler, Kaplan) - then there's the blacklisters - the Stewmaker, Leonard Caul, Courier, Anslo Garrick, Milton Bobbitt, Zamani in the pilot, Berlin, Esteban, there may be others. 

Unless Liz would have had an x-ray or similar test done on her wrist, I don’t think there’s a reason she would know about it, particularly if its small and buried deep.  (Like the alien microchips in X-Files, LOL) But I like this idea, it does make sense. 

So then the scar would not be from the fire per se, which may be a reason we don’t see it in Kaplans' fire memory.  We know Liz didn’t have it before (via “Mato” recollection scenes at Summer Palace) Hmmmm. 

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5/02/2017 11:59 am  #27


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Lara - yes, actually in the Pilot (which I just recently watched numerous times ) Liz says she her father gave it to her when she was 14 years old. I believe JB or JE said it should have been when she was 4, but at least in the original it was when she was 14. I should see if I can get clarification on that :-)


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

5/02/2017 3:10 pm  #28


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Not to mention all of the emotional scars.


“I am exactly who I am. And I can assure you, I’m a far more interesting Raymond Reddington than Raymond Reddington ever was."
 

5/02/2017 3:44 pm  #29


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Tatiana - on the 14 years old, I have thought it was either Liz deliberately lying to Red (stranger, criminal, etc, she may not have wanted him to know anything about it, or it may have been what Sam taught her to say for her own protection if anyone ever asked)) or they just decided, after the pilot was picked up, to direct the story differently.

I still think she got the scar when she was little (probably 4), but it may have been post fire.  how, is the strange thing that can't really be explained.  Yet, the fire doesn't really make sense either, to me, because it never (to me) looked like a burn scar but a "cut" type of scar.  (and hence my interest in your idea)

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5/02/2017 5:41 pm  #30


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It's a shame you have no crackers  
 

5/02/2017 8:56 pm  #31


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I wonder if Liz got her scar when her memories were wiped. Not sure how the two would be related, but that's what I am thinking these days.


“I am exactly who I am. And I can assure you, I’m a far more interesting Raymond Reddington than Raymond Reddington ever was."
 

5/04/2017 11:08 am  #32


Re: Episode 4.19 info

New 'spoiler' video with very interesting dialogue between Red and Liz!

http://www.nbc.com/the-blacklist/video/next-the-memory-manipulator/3512395


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

5/04/2017 3:19 pm  #33


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Thanks!  Yes very interesting. Does Red know less about the fire than we thought!?  Is this the Red with it without the scar?  Hmmm

 

5/04/2017 4:18 pm  #34


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"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

5/04/2017 8:27 pm  #35


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Very good, Tatiana!  I think someone tweeted earlier asking who wrote tonight's episode. Was that you?


“I am exactly who I am. And I can assure you, I’m a far more interesting Raymond Reddington than Raymond Reddington ever was."
 

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