All other tropes aside - its clear most of the next few episodes will feature the two rhinos (Red & Mr. Kaplan) going head to bullhorns!!!

One might think this should be a violent affair but I think not.

Both Kate and Red are intellectual criminals who will try to work things out before resorting to "the nuclear options".

Sub-plots aside Red's only real Trump card is probably Liz Keen. Red knows Kate has a protection affinity for Liz (and surely Agnes). Thus, Red may predictably conscript Liz to referee a truce - and failing that use her directly as a bargaining chip.

This is where Liz gets resusicated as a major cast member. She could also voluntarily insinuate herself into the fray - seeing how Mr. Kaplan and Reddington are now officially at war.

I hope the final option - Liz inserting herself into the fray - is the one chosen!

Just wanted to say how awesome everyone on this site is! So many great insights and observations, humorous spins on things, and always such kind-hearted respect and open-mindedness for differing beliefs.

Someday I'll win the lottery so we can all hang out together at a Blacklist filming location. Until then, my gratitude to everyone who reads or posts on this site!

Colleen, wouldn't that be a hoot!  Not just for us but they probably wouldn't know what to think.

Great comments everyone!!
I have rewatched 2+ times.  I took notes of a lot of things along the way as I a sure everyone else did too.

I can understand the fact that some of the things Kate remembers could be slightly mixed up. Everyone has their own point of view of how they remember something.

I noticed that she was looking into the rear view mirror and I suppose that was Raymond.
I am sure he was not sitting in the car waiting for her during her interview. So I was thinking at first she knew him.  Then as we get into it further I am not so sure?  Maybe we will get some of his flashbacks in the future.

Lara1, just for your clock reference it was 2:30 when she was being interviewed.

I am a bit disapointed that she has apparently killed a lot of Innocent people and destroyed a lot of lives along the way to get to this point.

KR calls him Alexander, but even Red called him by his real name.

KR said that saying anything about Raymond being connected to Masha would put her in even More danger.
That is one thing that Red has said all along about knowing who her real father is.
And KR gave no indication that Liz could be anyone elses except Kirk or Red.

It is indicated that the fire was downtown. So it did not apppear to be an out of the way place.

So I wonder who was with KR in the house the night of the fire? 

When she contacts Kate, it has already been over a week.
She says the uncovered her affair with Red and both sides are looking for her.
Kate mentions her sister in Chicago, which is at least consistant with where she said she went to Med school.
She goes to Sams house but it isnt the night of the fire, its at least over a week later. But Red covered himself saying 'the way Sam tells it'.

Kate said to Sam that KR and Red trusted him with her. That indicated to me that Red was believed to be alive. He did hesitate...

Sam comes to her in Tx and says that Red wants to see her.  She basically indicates she doesnt like him.  I am trying to figure out what year this could be?  She speaks of his criminal activities and organized crime and so does he.
I did take note that it is the left side of his face that is in the shadow.

At first I thought that she had a lot of makup on to cover the wound to her face,
but When I saw her wound on the back of her head.... I thought I must have missed something.

They didnt seam to be too worried when he turned himself in,
 THey said he would be fine, he was in FBI custody.  They must have been expecting him?

When he calls Kate at the end she seamed to of confirmed the timeline of when she joined him.

After he said that KR betrayed 2 counties I wondered if I had it all wrong thinking she was a Russian.
She could have been an American, but Dom seamed to have a accent. maybe she was raised in the usa.

As far as the way KR talks to Kate about Raymond, I dont think that she would be the sort to tell Kate everything she was feeling. I think that she felt she could not be with him no matter how she felt because he was supposed to be an assignment and most likely Kirk was too.

I wonder if there is any influence of "Master James" the architect of Edward I. in
the case study houses?

I am flooded with thoughts on this, I know I left some things out! 


I reall think TPTB need us to go over their scripts for approval.

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this one is  little blurry,

Tatiana wrote:

Honey West wrote:

I think a key clue was that Kate had previously worked for families of diplomats and government officials. I still don't buy the idea that she only met Red after the fire. She might have been more like Tom than we thought, hired to be placed in Liz's life in order to watch over her.

Honey West - yes, I cannot fathom how they could pull off the "when you put her in my arms as a baby" deal without explaining it. Some go with the Katarina gender reassignment. Others the impostor theory. Both can be debunked. 

So somehow TBL has to explain this discrepancy. I find it incredibly odd that Kathryn Nemec had so much high level experience in such a short period of time and somehow landed in Katarina's living room interviewing for a nanny position. The only rational explanation is that Kate is remembering through her own lens.

 
I think she was working for Red and spying on Katarina and Masha for him when he wasn't able to be around, presumably when he was back home making Carla miserable. That said I also think it possible that she may not have known exactly who she was working for. Tom worked for Red for years without meeting him. She could have known who she was working for but not have been part of his organization. That seems to have come about later on. She would have been sort of an independent contractor. He could have introduced her to Liz earlier, when Katarina wasn't around (and she basically said she was gone a lot) but only sent her to do nanny work when something changed, perhaps he was assigned elsewhere or was even on a ship and needed full time eyes on the kid.

Great job, eastcoast! you get a trophy too!

I think what we have here is a matter of flashbacks vs. flashback memories. I'm not so sure this was Kate doing the remembering so much as it was the past being shown to us. Along with Kate operating in the present day as she works on her Red Project. Sort of an "oh, by the way, this is where she's coming from." And I think it was maybe supposed to be a neutral display of the facts that allows us to see how the parties involved have differing ideas about what actually happened from their points of view.

Homey West - intrguing catch on the sister.   They showed Kate and the father at the funeral. Even though the focus was clearly on Kate, it would have made sense to show her sister esp to tie it into Kate's mention of her later in the episode. Maybe they figured it wasnt  central enough to the story, or since it was mainly Kates's memory that's the part that most stuck with her - the comments her father made?  Its also possible her sister was an infant at the time.  More questions!

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Eastcoast and Honey West #153.  Im thinking more about red in the rear view mirror.  It was very subtle and the flash to present day confirms that it was him.   It makes me think moreso that Kate was sent in there with a mission. Im not so sure it was Red as "Red" maybe it was spy stuff and he was her handler. Unless he could pay her - just not sure if he would have had access to those funds while in the Navy. Then again, we dont know anything about his background. He could have come from a wealthy family or otherwise had access to funds.  Intriguing ! 

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I'm now thinking the guy in the rearview mirror wasn't young Red at all but was instead one of Constantin's chauffeurs. Even if Red was one the hired Kaplan, it doesn't make sense that he would have driven her up to the Summer Palace in his dress blues.

lara1 - I think you make a good point about the funeral flashback being Kate's memory of what her father said about the body. In reality, her sister could have been there too, but what Kate remembers is looking at her mother's body and what her father said.

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