lara1 wrote:

Honey West #16 - I like your idea that Cooper giving Red the "cold shoulder" and making a loud fuss in the Post Office is his way of signaling something to Red.  Remember when Red asked him something like, since when, or why do you care about appeasing them (the powers that be)? and Cooper just gave him a look and said nothing.....

Also like your idea about the inhaler - I am a bit fixated about that thing!  There were just so many close ups of inhalers....well I guess we will see!  

 
Yeah, I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner about Cooper. He's been rather mean to Red. "I'm going home to people who LOVE me!" I kept thinking why is he all of a sudden acting that way? He'd had some nice conversations with Red up until then and I thought they'd achieved a level of mutual respect at least. But they go back many years to that thing in Kuwait. So maybe he was managing to warn Red that the jig was up and the Task force was being used against him or had been compromised to the point where Red couldn't or shouldn't use them for help. I'm sure Laurel Hitchen is not happy that Ressler is investigating Reven Wright"s murder. Ressler knows, but can't prove anything. Hitchen knows that he knows. Ressler' better watch his step or he might disappear, too!

And I just don't quite trust that doctor! Without Kate running the show I am not sure about some of these new outsiders that are being recruited for these important positions where Reds life can be at stake. Great way to get him. And that last inhaler seemed to make him worse or else the toxin was just at that point where the inhaler wouldn't work.

Honey West - yes, I remain deeply suspicious of the doctor.  In my mind its either he's in on the plot with Red/Dembe or on the "other side" and part of the opposition....

Its kind of a paradox isn't it?  Red kills Kaplan for betraying him yet now he is surrounded by support that he can't necessarily trust (cleaners, doctors).  I'm assuming Nik has bit the dust also at this point.  Funny though how that has never come up though.

Re Kathryn - well you never know, Lotte could appear in flashback and present day.  I'm curious though to see how they fit in the flashback.  And whose flashback it is - maybe Kaplan's.  and curious how they will fit Grey in, who is more current time.  Maybe Kaplan knew Grey as well.  Did we ever get a first name for him?  gosh I can't remember if we did.  ....trying to fit in "Jason".  That one seems the odd man out in the cast of characters.

It's funny, we call him Grey, but his name was Newton Phillips. And of course how did he die? Suffocated. By Red.

And I also wonder why Liz didn't ask about Nik after she found out about Kate? Maybe it is assumed that Nik is deceased. And maybe that scene with Red way back when was actually that happening, Nik didn't walk out of that room after all. Either that or they haven't needed a trauma surgeon, so we haven't seen him. I think they get who they need for *77 calls. But I do think Red had him "dismissed" since he could no longer trust him with his life, potentially.

Tuxie400, I wondered that about Jason, too. But I checked his bio and he is like 6'2. But it's possible! He has the same hair and eye color as the young JS, plus he's from New England. The plot thickens.

The beauty of Aram being kidnapped by Dembe fascinates me. At least Aram will feel right at home - being in Dembe's mitts - the banter could be quite oddball. Two characters - one defined by minimalist conversation that's usually on the mark - the other defined by, hmmm I don't actually know - buts its definitely not minimalist, is it?  They could be the Coco Puffs version of Tom & Solomon!
Perhaps Annie Heise will sneak into the episode - and save Aram this time?

Yes some interesting scenes between Aram and Dembe.

I wonder if Liz will break from the Task Force and join Red searching for Dembe or who will find him first.

And I wonder whether the Anne Heise character will help Aram or turn out to be working for "the other side".

Elise/Janet/possible Jennifer......

I'm pretty much solid on the side now that Dembe did not do the poisoning intentionally.  But I do think that something in that episode (4.16) will lead them to Kaplan, as that is the next episode.  Of course maybe they did it differently.  But if 17 turns out to be a meeting between Red and Kaplan that will be intense.  Well it will be intense whenever it happens.  Maybe Red just imagines the past in ep 17.  Well only about 3 more weeks to go.    

I dunno, I am leaning towards the idea that Dembe is getting Aram in order to help ferret out who is attacking Red's business. So far that person has not directly attacked Red's person, unless you count the poisoning. But if they really want to knock his organization apart and they seem to want him to watch helplessly as it happens, why try to kill him before they've accomplished their goal, if that's what their goal really is - torment him and then finally kill him. And why don't they attack Liz?

So if Cooper has actually been warning Red, then he has had time to set up his chess pieces. I am really starting to think the whole poisoning thing was a set piece, bringing all of those money people to the dinner was supposed to be the stage, but Marvin messed it up by being absent and so Red and Dembe had to go and fetch him. I think this delayed things and the poison, which wasn't supposed to actually kill Red, got out of control. It was the thing that could go wrong, if they were unable to keep to the original plan. I think it was Red who hired the Apothecary. The memory issues caused by the use of snake venom in the concoction were an unexpected and nearly lethal side effect. Maybe they didn't know that he used snake venom in his brews?

I'm still thinking about this, so it's not a fully hatched notion yet as to how it could play out with why Dembe took off. Searching for - what or who?

UPDATE:

Now Lotte Verbeek is listed as portraying Katarina Rostova instead of Kathryn Nemec
 
Interesting....

Yeah, very interesting, isn't it?
Ok, so here's this thought that keeps lingering in the back of my mind:

You remember the notorious Edgar Legat? Everyone knows of him and his brilliance as an assassin and that Raymond is his employer. 

Except he's not real, he's a character created out of Reddington's imagination.

I still have that niggling doubt that Katarina is like that, although she is a real person. And it makes me wonder who Kate Kaplan really is.

wow, lots of great ideas!  I'll come back later when I've had time to absorb everything on this thread and the others.  

I'll just throw this out there -

Cape May - had various names attributed to the Katarina figure.  Maybe they just don't want us to equate Kathryn with katarina.  but

Honey West - your idea that Kathryn ( possibly as Kaplan) is called Kathryn in Requiem and then Kaplan in episode 21 (if that ends up being the title) would kind of link back to a tweet that went out the other day.  Didn't BL tweet one of Red's lines, something like, you can't know a book by its cover but you certainly can by the end, or something like that?  does that point to both being Kaplan, her beginning and end story, and that maybe, she is not who she appears to be -

Several of us commented during Mato that some of Kate's looks/actions appeared suspicious but then nothing really happened.  (And I still say she saw Mato before she got out of the car in that scene with Tom, LOL).  Well then some of us (including me) speculated, what if, Red turns out to be right - that there was more than met the eye in his killing of Kaplan.  Suppose she really was betraying him in a more significant way, that he found out about but we the audience didn't?  And that is what has plunged him into despair, not only that he had to end her life, despite their years and trust togeher, but that she betrayed him so deeply.

Just a theory of course.  it could be totally wrong, LOL  

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