Tuxie400 - I loved the scene with Red taunting the banker over the artist!  LOL

The killer who confessed to "killing" Christopher Hargrave - his mother had a cuckoo clock, in the kitchen I think it was.  But it was a funny ceramic one, not a "traditional" wooden one.

In one of the breaks, the GEICO commercial with the cuckoo clock with the talking figurines aired!  maybe you saw it?

Remembering our new 'stud' Amar with that solid titanium rocket blasting away the "Architect" was priceless. He can date anyone now!

Big Bad Bazzer - great point about the interaction with Spader and Lennix - that was a great scene!

Iowa Watcher - I've got to find some way to remember BL is on an hour earlier next week. That's the kind of thing that could easily slip my mind. There was a lot packed into this episode, and it's hard for the tired mind to process it all at that late hour.

lara1 - I'll have to look for the cuckoo clock on my rewatch. I didn't see commercial with cuckoo clock either. I must have been on a bathroom or snack break. LOL

BBB - Harold is always ranting at Red these days. But I think it's out of character for him not to show Red a bit of sympathy. Afterall, his business is under attack and his friends and underlings are being massacred. This is the third or fourth time he's told Red off since the show came back in January. While I liked it in 4.09, it's starting to get a little old for me.

Tuxie400 - I thought the same thing re Harold.  though I thought the scene at the end between Harold and Red was excellent.  But it did seem a  bit out of character, as Harold has always seemed willing to forego Red's "shortcomings".  Maybe its a plot device to build up to a "Cooper story".  he hasn't had one in a while.

Tatiana - bingo!!  That would be an awesome plot..  and I agree with your observations re Panabaker (forgot about her); the investigation being dropped (curious that was dropped into this episode); and could laurel herself be involved?

Great idea.

Okay, somebody has to say it:
"Dammit! Janet!"
She is actually a potentially good character if they decide to bring her back more often. I like that she told Aram she was sorry. Some good Aram/Samar/Janet tension potential here if they choose to pursue it. (pouty)

I have to say, I really liked this episode. It was like they got their groove back or something. Of course an Aram episode will always be good in my book. But it seemed like everyone was being just who they were supposed to be for a change. And it moved the overall "who's targeting Red" story along, too, in a nice twisty way that I didn't see coming. Red targeting Red. He would certainly be a worthy adversary for himself. Maybe he's sleepwalking and doing it. JK, of course. I think we can be pretty sure it's not Fitch. (Had to toss in a Fitch reference, it's been awhile).  (whistling)

Good setup for Redemption. Who sent that script? My first jump to a conclusion would say Red. But since that took place 30 years ago, would 30 years ago Red have done something like that just because today Red would have? I don't really think so, although I'm not totally sure why. Have to think about that. Anyway, Liz is now sure Tom is going to have to pursue this and will be leaving.

The Cooper/Red thing at the end. So Cooper is yet another character with a daughter in peril. Coopers speech reminded me of something Liz would say to Red. But she's not in a position to say things like that to him at the moment, so Cooper had to lecture Red about being selfish this time.

Red/Levine/artist. We needed a little comic relief. But I was kind of surprised that with so many of Reds associates being killed lately that his banker might be a little more worried for his own safety. Of course with the service he provides maybe nobody would dare threaten him. Reds scenario about his portrait being priceless as being the last one by the artist, unfinished because the subject killed him before it could be completed and then the little jab at Levine "and you won't have yours." But the look on Red's face at the end.

And once again Aram had to kill someone and he was not okay with it. He made his point about it without getting sappy.

I thought we'd never hear anything more about Reven Wright. Go get 'em, Donald! Ressler needed a storyline like that, he needs a break from what he's been doing.

Lara1 did a good job already with the list of potential adversaries. A number of people do have the means to do all that. I hope it's not Kaplan, that would be too easy. Another thought I had was that it might be Cabal-related. Or one of those other points on the Map of Doom. Whoever it is, it doesn't seem to be enough to just do in Red, they also want to neutralize his organization. Maybe that would start some dominoes moving? I can't believe the Cabal would just go whimpering away after Red got his place at the table with them. If anything they would bide their time until they could get rid of him. But like all things with this overall story we just have to be patient and see where they go with it.

I have some thoughts about next week, but not sure where to put that yet. Probably not here. Maybe in the spoilers area. I know we no longer have the old spoiler policy, but it's somewhat speculative.

Off to read the recaps.

I think as Red starts taking on more burden and has criminal shackles applied - the other members of his Post Office team are becoming strangely un-burdened of their own physical (or mostly psychological) shackles. Last week Samar was imbued with a strange new sense of humour, Aram is now a trained sniper/assassin and even more of a humanist, Janet/Elise is one of the good guys now, Ressler is becoming intransigent to internal authority - opening up the Reven Wright investigation regardless of orders from up top, Dembe is still a right hand man but occasionally shows his left, Tom is searching for his roots vs. being a professional spy and even Lizzy has come full circle since being re-instated and her gullibility index has been reduced substantially.

Comments?

@ Lara1 #46 ("shortlist of 'Suspects'... any other thoughts?"):

DENNY CRANE
Verbal Kint

Sorry, being snarky this Friday AM! ;-)   

"I have to say, I really liked this episode. It was like they got their groove back or something." 

Yes, Honey West! It really felt different. It was a very complex episode with multiple story lines and many characters. It was all brilliantly brought together with a good flow and minimal confusion.

Although, like Iowa Watcher, it took me a while to figure out what was going on. This is definitely a rewatch, if not multiple rewatches!

LD Jones #52 - I think there was one other instance this season where Red did not go through Liz but I can't recall which one - I remember commenting on it, though.

Honey West and Tatiana - I really like your thoughts about the possibility of either the Cabal (2017!) or a government agency coming after Red.  Fitch did tell Red way back when that they were able to watch his every move...and government agency surveillance (whether or not through Halcyon/Panabaker).  They could even have a "mole" in Red's organization.  I also think that it won't be resolved next episode, it might take us through the end of the season.  Maybe not, we'll see...

I agree that the show has got its "groove' back - big time.  I think it started along this track a few episodes ago and between the last episode and this one, has come full circle.  I am really intrigued by what is happening and the multiple developments have got the creative side of my brain kick started again with theories, vs just noting allegories and symbols in the episodes.  Always love the show though....

 

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