Thank you for starting the thread, Iowa Watcher!

I was just looking at some tweets about tonight’s episode. There is a good sneak peek clip of Red and Cooper where Red explains the nature of his empire. I think it was from TV Guide. And I was just reading another description of the finale where John Eisendrath says that the finale will reveal an even greater danger to Red. To me that sounded like Marvin probably is working for someone or something even greater than himself.

In any case this will be good because it looks like a lot of interaction between Red, Harold and Marvin and these are some fine actors!

Not sure about my snack yet. I was going to make a cherry pie, but I ate all the cherries!

Very interesting type of episode. More Marvin than ever before. Almost like he was the first male lead - while Red was the strong supporting player.
Biggest twist was Dembe Zuma branching off to provide protection services for Red while Weecha recovers. I think most thought Alina Park would be the designated protector - even though Reddington has 100s of capable mountain men in his vast world-wide criminal arsenal!
The Norwegian para-military guy who was dispatched by Marvin to off Reddington was an interesting character. 18 minutes under-water before giving in - thats really amazing. The guy was a cross between James Bond + Derek Flint.
Reddington allowed the physically inept Marvin too easy an exit after luring him into his well-crafted trap. One quick head butt and Marvin was off too the races like the wiley weasel he's become!
I guess show-runners can't afford to have Marvin taken down by either Red or the Task Force - cuz he's about the heaviest black-lister they've got that doesn't require re-building or a new character. Marvin is such a well-developed criminal foe for Red. I'm guessing he'll be kept around for another season. And don't for a minute discount Red & Marvin working together if their mutual interests overlap.

Last edited by Big Badd Bazzer (5/21/2022 9:16 pm)

Honey West! You ate the strawberries!! 😆😆

IW,  I had a delicious strawberry tort with a bunch of whip cream!  I spotted the bakery had one left and hurried my way over to it! 

I really enjoyed seeing Dembe working with Red.  It seams a bit more normal to me. 

I am wondering why he is 80 on the blacklist?  I would have thought anyone having something to do with Liz dying would have a single digit.   
It really feels odd to see Marvin as a bad guy.  He was set up by Mr. Kaplan and Liz. Went to jail and let us not forget he had a visit with Mr. Brimley!  I did feel a bit sorry for him.  I hope the writers bring this out.

Eastcoast wrote:

Honey West! You ate the strawberries!! 😆😆

IW, I had a delicious strawberry tort with a bunch of whip cream! I spotted the bakery had one left and hurried my way over to it!

I really enjoyed seeing Dembe working with Red. It seams a bit more normal to me.

I am wondering why he is 80 on the blacklist? I would have thought anyone having something to do with Liz dying would have a single digit.
It really feels odd to see Marvin as a bad guy. He was set up by Mr. Kaplan and Liz. Went to jail and let us not forget he had a visit with Mr. Brimley! I did feel a bit sorry for him. I hope the writers bring this out.

Marvin attained #80 status before turning on Reddington. Although the premise for his escape from Reddington's grasp was weak (a simple headbutt to Red after Harold called in an emergency alert at the airport) there were other weaknesses to the sub-premise. Red didn't have any of his mountain men positioned around Marvin, if Marvin either ran for the exits (which he did) or pulled a piece. From Marvin's standpoint, poor writing, too as Marvin had no protection with him when he made his trek up the escalator. For men so detailed & meticulous in their underground behavior they were both made to look like feeble old men only capable of vomiting words - NOT ACTIONS!
 

Hi, Eastcoast! I think Yeti and BBB are correct about the #80. Sorry it's so hot for you, HW! send a little heat out my way -- it was in the upper 30s last night. I had to cover all of my flowers. That's unusual in late May!

BBB -- I agree about the poor writing in that scene. I have to wonder sometimes if they are pulling some of the writing from other shows or writers that don't know about the Blacklist characters -OR- maybe they didn't have a lot of time or money and need to shoot a quick scene to advance the story. I hope that we don't see any of that in part two.

The show needs to get back to better chemistry and characters we care about and compelling mysteries.They had some great ideas going. I hope the show can return to that for the 10th season.
 

Last edited by IowaWatcher (5/23/2022 3:25 pm)

Interesting ideas, BBB. I agree about Marvin. However, I'm not a Park fan, even if she goes to the other side, which would be interesting for an episode or two, but I don't like her character that well.

But, yes!, Shake it! LOL.
 

Hey, it's enough of a stretch for me that Dembe joined the FBI. Joining with Marvin would be too much. I don't think they will go that route, but you might be right about Park. It looks like they are poised to do something new with her or replace her character.

Ressler needs a new, dangerous love interest. I've had more than enough of the drug arc.