Interesting idea, EC. You know for a guy on top of the Most Wanted list and all that, he sure leaves his fingerprints all over the place!

HW and lara1, I know. It is crazy! He does not seam to worry about it. There is that time he told Dembe to wipe down the place before they left. It was the Hotel where Craig jumped out the window. 

I'm definitely curious as to how some little girl can have a connection to the secret...

 

Colleen - Red's fingerprints may be altered, or, more likely the fingerprints in his FBI record now are not his. We've seen how he pulls all these capers. A record with fingerprints matching his may have been substituted shortly before he turned himself in, and then replaced later with the real fingerprints.

I do think he had Dembe wipe down the hotel room to protect Liz and not himself.

Here’s a long post (sorry guys), but lately I’ve been thinking about the mystery quite a lot but I have not really been contributing to some discussion yet and I think I could need some of your brilliant suggestions.
While I have been a fan of the imposter theory for a long while now, especially after Garvey’s comment to Jennifer, I start having my doubts about whether this theory would be possible and there might be a more simple solution. I always assumed Seaduke would have taken Red’s identity during the mission that Cooper mentions in Mr. Kaplan: Conclusion, as Seaduke was never seen afterwards. While I still consider that a possibility, it would not make sense that the bones in the duffel bag belong to the real Reddington then. We know Kaplan buried the bones together with Red, but at that time they probably did not know each other yet, or at least did not work with each other (according to Requiem that only happens after Katarina is gone). It does not make sense to me that Red would keep the bones for such a long time only to bury them in a suitcase at Tansi farms years later.
Then, it is possible that Red took Raymond’s identity after Katarina disappeared (I don’t consider her being alive at the time a possibility because Katarina would have noticed Red’s disappearance). For this, we have to assume that Kaplan either (1) did not know Raymond (although she might have seen him vaguely) or (2) for some reason agreed with new Red to take Raymond’s identity. In the first case, Kaplan would not have known that the person buried was the original Raymond Reddington. Therefore, it would not make sense to dig this corpse up, let alone give it a different treatment than the 84 bodies at the ice rink. Then the possibility remains of Kate agreeing to Red’s plan, but she often calls him Raymond, which would not make sense if she knew he was an imposter. Also, there are other people who knew Raymond from before that time, including Kirk, Fowler, Naomi and Richard Abraham.
So, I’m not sure whether this theory has been mentioned before, but is there a possibility that the bones belong to Seaduke/Lizzie’s father? This, in my eyes might be possible even assuming that Red never lied to Liz. The DNA which proved Red to be Lizzie’s father might have actually come from Seaduke, which is why I’m thinking he could be her father. After all, we know Katarina had to seduce various men as part of her job while we just know Kirk and Red. Kirk believed she really loved him and so far it appeared that this only really counted for Red. But what if her real lover and Lizzie’s father would be a different person entirely? In this case, it is possible that Liz killed her real father after which Katarina committed suicide. Maybe Red even convinced Liz to kill Seaduke because of his violence against Katarina which might eventually kill her (or his involvement in the Cabal?) and had Lizzie’s memory altered afterwards, not just to ease the pain but also because he was guilty of it or simply to prevent her from investigating her father’s real identity. I could imagine that knowing her real father was a high-ranking Russian spy who might have had ties with the Cabal could bring Liz in danger, something that Red has often mentioned would be the case.
One of the things that is not explained by this, is Garvey’s comment to Jennifer that she’s been in hiding for no reason, but there might be more things I have not thought about. I might have to rewatch some scenes from earlier episodes before this season's finale, but I think this is pretty much how I think about it all now. 

Yetti, it could be?  All we know for sure is the shirt has her fathers blood on it.  

​Honeywest, I thought he did refer to himself as her father in the second episode of this season.  
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Edit to say, towards the end of Greyson Blaise. 

 

Last edited by Eastcoast (5/08/2018 11:12 pm)

Eastcoast wrote:

Yetti, it could be?  All we know for sure is the shirt has her fathers blood on it.  

​Honeywest, I thought he did refer to himself as her father in the second episode of this season.  
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Edit to say, towards the end of Greyson Blaise. 

 

I think what he said was "because you're my daughter." He has never referred to himself as her father.
 

Honey West wrote:

If this plot becomes any thicker it will have turned into a solid.

Honey West - LOL!

Red said that to Liz as a question ' "because you're my daughter?" in response to something Liz said. To me, that was like, "because you believe that you're my daughter".  He has never actually said that he's her father.  But then, to me, I have never believed Red is her father.  Still don't.  The man whose blood is on that old shirt, is.  But to me its still an open question as to whose shirt it was, and whose blood it was (RR's or someone else's).  And whether that was even Red's shirt or Red's blood, as in, he may not be the real RR.  Lots of variables and open questions at play, IMO
 

Here's my final prediction on the bones.  I think Ian Garvey put Jennifer's DNA into CODIS and had all familial matches flagged and sent to him. His goal originally was to arrest Reddington and neutralize the perceived threat to Jennifer, Carla, and possibly this Sutton Ross. The tooth's DNA did match Jennifer's because it belonged to the real Raymond Reddington.  The truth Garvey knew was that the real RR was dead. But he wanted the whole truth: the how and why our Red became Raymond Reddington.  I think the clliffhanger will be who is the person we know as Red. I believe Liz will hear the story Red tells Sutton Ross because she's set up her own kidnapping. Red's immunity deal will be off. The task force will be no more, and Liz and her team in Season 6 will be trying to discover who Red really is. Under this scenario, there's no need for real Reddington's DNA to be in CODIS for the bones to be his.

 

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Good work, Tuxie400! Very possible.