I think it depends on the episode.  In the past episodes it was a crime drama, but as it goes on it is a bit more crime/drama/thriller.  Definitely starting to fall into psychological thriller with all the gruesome murders they have been showing.  (I can do without the gruesome by the way) lol

Brittany wrote:

Tuxie- I think I would be angry with Red for that, more so than holding her hostage or killing her.  Liz, while still not a good thing, I can understand a little more because she was a child and it may have helped to shield her (to a degree) from growing up traumatized by what happened to her.  But to make a woman forget her child, or believe she's dead.  That's cold.  I'm keeping that one on the back burner while we wait for the big reveal this season.  It may be total bunk, but it's interesting to consider. 

 

​Cold is an understatement!   That would probably be unforgivable to Liz.  I think it is wrong for any parent to do anything of that nature! 
I know we had said a while back that maybe she was in a nursing home somewhere like Josephine is.  

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"I know we had said a while back that maybe she was in a nursing home somewhere like Josephine is.  "

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Wow, this really reminded me of something we discussed a few years ago at the time that Artax aired.  It is tied in with the sled imagery I've been seeing and other TBL symbols.

Back in Artax, someone made a comment about Red going through KR's things in Dom's garage.  It was either about the music that played in the scene or the glitter, maybe various sayings about glitter, maybe tying something into a book.  It was a brilliant comment, but I don't have time to try to dig it up.  (Maybe if the person who wrote it remembers, they could remind us what it was.)  

that led to a connection with the book "Ethan From" (again I don't know exactly how the connection was made, or whether I made it - anyway) I then commented at the time about how that book traces some of the TBL themes.

Spoilers coming for those who haven't read the book or seen the film (Liam Neeson in title role).  So the story, in brief, takes place sometime in the 1800s is about how a married man with a sickly wife (From), falls in love with the woman (I think her name was Maddie or Mattie - another kind of TBL link) who has come to look after his wife.  Long story short, the woman is sent away by the wife (who may have suspected something), and From is taking Mattie to the train station.   Its winter, in the woods, with lots of snow.  They stop at a hill where they either used to go sledding or wished they could (I think the book and film may differ on which).  Point being, they decide to take one last trip down the hill on a red old fashioned SLED (not dissimilar to the flexible flyer we have been seeing).

The book and film differ I believe, in the book, its a suicide pact to purposely crash into a tree, in the film I believe it reads more like, lets take one last sled trip together.  In any event, they crash into a TREE.   

The story both begins and ends 24 years later and tells the story via flashback.  In the crash, Mattie was paralyzed and is an invalid for the rest of her life.  From was injured as well, walks with difficulty, in pain and with a limp.

Anyway its a very sad story, but the mention of Josephine and our discussions of how it may be possible that Red has her somewhere made me think of this.  Whether its a parallel to KR, who knows.  But its an interesting link.

Again I can't remember exactly how we got from Red in Dom's garage to the glitter to Ethan From when discussing Artax.  But i remember that at the time, we uncovered a very cool link to it.
 

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Tuxie400 wrote:

lara1 - I was the one on BSG who found the quote "Never underestimate the power of glitter" came from a teen novel by Katie Klein. The plot was good, highly intelligent girl falls in love with a bad boy when they are assigned as partners to read the novel Ethan Frome. That;s how you got to Ethan Frome and its similarities to BL.

AHA!  thanks Tuxie400!   That was such a brilliant connection you made!   So funny how things come up that bring us back to previous discussions!  If I hadn't seen the sleds this season I don't think I'd made the connection back to From.  

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Speaking of glitter ....  I had to go to a few stores and one of them had a bunch of glitter of all things on a shelf when I went in that was on sale.  It is something you usually have to go look for in the craft section.  Not only that but I decided to go into an Antique store and I saw a Very Old Copy of Moby Dick in there.  And then, I went to the other side of the store and sticking out from under a table was a Suitcase like the one on the show!!  I actually took a picture of it I was so stunned! 

 

ha! now that is downright eery!!! Such an odd combination of events.

lara, I did Not open it!! lol 

Possibly, unless she was just saying that to keep her calm about the situation. 

I guess I would have thought that comforting a child would have said “we’ll be going home soon”,  not “we’re finding a new place to live”.

Official NBC Blacklist tweet this morning:
"Sins should be buried like the dead. Not that they may be forgotten, but that we may remember them and find our way forward nonetheless." Raymond Reddington, 'The Informant' 5.10

Of course this makes us think of the bones in the suitcase and the statement Raymond makes to Dom,
Dom: What the hell are you really doing here? What do you want from me?
Red: A way forward. I can't live long with what I feel inside. I..I