Tuxie400 wrote:

Tatiana - You're right about the Oleander stuff. Liz thinks it has something to do with Tom's killer, but the question Tom asked Dennison was Why did I pick up the suitcase? Dennison's reply was Oleander. It doesn't really tie into who killed Tom, which is Garvey.

ohhhh... thanks for that. I kind of remember that now.

Only one thought - Glen could be Garvey's doppleganger! I'm sure he'll be thrilled when Red tells him about the procedure!!!

Big Badd Bazzer wrote:

Only one thought - Glen could be Garvey's doppleganger! I'm sure he'll be thrilled when Red tells him about the procedure!!!

Did you know they call Garvey "Evil Glen" on the Blacklist Exposed site because they look so much alike?
 

Yes I'll also be intrigued to see how all of these threads of Red are going to fit together.
I think he is planning a huge fire, I'm now starting to think that a double of some kind will be in the fire....who knows though.

I still don't get Garvey's scheming to get to Red.  He knows there is a connection between Liz and Red, if he has Liz followed, he has Red.  What is his deal with the crew he has??

Tuxie400 wrote:

Garvey's ring looks green to me. Another Christmas color for lara1.

Green happens to be my favorite color at the moment     And It has been all over season 5.
 

John Noble who played tonite's black-lister had a great recurring run on the American network drama Sherlock, as Sherlock's father. He was very good there, too! Hope he'll have at least a 3 or 4 episode arc before they detach him!

I now believe the Red we know only has one daughter, Liz, and she was ballerina girl.

Tatiana wrote:

Green ring to me too.

I was reading some other theories out there. Kissmyfreckle (I think she's a keenler shipper) thinks there were two Christmas eve's; the night he came home to find ballerina girl, his daughter, dead and the night of the fire when Elizabeth presumably shot and killed her father. Remember, Red told Liz, you have the answers I need... they both need each other to figure out a missing piece.

Well the period from around March 1990 (when presumably KR walked into the ocean) through to Dec 1990 has no info on Red.  Wait, that's 10 months, a parallel to the time Liz was in a coma.   I forgot about that.  

Interesting episode, I have to rewatch certain scenes tomorrow. I do think Bokencamp and company are messing a little with those of us who think Red is an impostor dropping all the hints. I think they're just having some fun with us, I don't take them as real hints.

Count me in as someone who thinks Red will use Sinclair to create a doppleganger of some sort. I also thought he needed a set of bones and that's why he asked Harold to do the funeral for the homeless man.  I am wondering if he's planning on digging up those bones after the woman leaves.  Maybe putting them in a suitcase to fake out whoever wants them or is looking for them. The real ones are missing, and he'll use Sinclair to do to the skeleton what will make it look like deceased who was in the suitcase. I doubt faking the dna would be an issue if Liz is back at the FBI, he doesn't have to have the dna in the bones match, he has to have the reference in CODIS match the bones he finds.  Change the CODIS profile, the new bones will match it.

If that's the way it's going, it's neither Real/red or Katarina in that suitcase, it's a new character (which I'm now leaning at about 80% that that's the way it's going to go even before the show tonight).

Timelines on this show are wonky.  Too many cooks in the kitchen.