Tatiana wrote:

Tuxie400 wrote:

lara1 - The aviator glasses haven't changed much since the late 70s. They looked pretty much the same in the 80s.  Wasn't James Spader wearing them as Steff in Pretty in Pink (1986)?

Yep!

Yes, haha.  But there is something about Red's glasses that have always seemed a bit retro to me.  Not sure if its the color of the tinted lenses, or the double bar across the top frame or both , LOL.

ADDED:  I caught an old epsiode of "Kojak" the TV series the other week.  He wears v similar glasses and wore a hat too, I think it was a fedora, or similar.  LOL.

and for no particular reason, Kaplan's walkman popped into my head today.  Remember the episode where her cleaning crew was killed?  Season 3 I think.  Kate was plugged into her walkman listening to music on cassette, when she was ambushed.  Another blast from the late seventies/early eighties.  LOL  

They are adding up, IMO.   

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Tuxie400 wrote:

All the payphones in The Blacklist are a throwback to the 70s and 80s too. They started being phased out in the 1990s, and by 2008 AT&T axed all its payphones, with Verizon following suit in 2011.

LOL!  talk about the obvious, overlooked by me.  haha.  Yes, I know that the pay phone Red uses before he goes on the lam after Anslo, had to be obtained and put in place on that street.  there are still payphones in NYC, but yes they are rare,  and they would not have necessarily been located where production wanted to film.  But, nonetheless, that's another throwback to the past.  Red could have used a disposable flip phone as he otherwise does.  A clue in plain sight?  Maybe,....maybe not  
 

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Iowawatcher- I have clients who live in an area with a high Amish concentration and it's pretty much the only area where I've seen pay phones in several years, though not as many as you'd think.  Apparently there are quite a few who now have cell phones.  I think it depends on how conservative the order is. 

On a side note in relation to conspiracy theories within the Blacklist, I learned today that before being named  MKULTRA, the CIA's first name for it was Project Artichoke.   MK ULTRA sounds so much better. 

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I saw a payphone yesterday.  Right outside my favorite Mexican restaurant...the one I've been going to for at least 15 years. And I'm JUST now seeing it....

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lara1 - Did you see the Sneak Peak? Aly has the link to it on her site. It's a snippet of Liz's session with the psychologist.

Tuxie400 wrote:

lara1 - Did you see the Sneak Peak? Aly has the link to it on her site. It's a snippet of Liz's session with the psychologist.

Thanks, Tuxie400, I saw the sneak peeks.  Last time we were flooded with things daily - clips, little articles, quotes etc.  Been pretty quiet this time around.....

We used to get flooded with previews. Maybe they just didn't have many clips that wouldn't I've away too much. They've mentioned that before as a challenge. Does that mean this episode will be chock full of real storyline? I sure hope so!

OK, here's some that relates somewhat to all  imposter theories. I was searching for information on the identity transfer technique used in spying, when I ran into some real-life scientific experiments on identity transfer using facial implants. This experiment transplanted the faces of fresh cadavers on head models and two other cadavers. The 3006 abstract is from the U.S. National Public Library of Medicine:

The authors have assessed the facial "appearance" of recipient cadavers after mock facial transplantation, the "appearance" of donor facial flaps following transfer to artificial head models, and the "appearance" of donor flaps after replantation back to the same cadavers. Based on the results of different types of facial flap transplantation, the issue of "identity transfer" is discussed. Ten fresh human cadavers were dissected. In eight cadavers, the entire facial/scalp flap was harvested. Two cadavers served as recipients of the donor facial flaps. Two different types of artificial head models were used as the "recipients" for the harvested facial flaps. The facial appearance of the recipient cadavers after mock transplantation was a mixture of features of both the recipient and the donor. The appearance of the facial flaps mounted on the head models was close to the framework of the head models. When harvested facial flaps were transferred back to the original cadavers, the facial appearance was nearly the same as before transplant. Based on this study, the authors will be able to discuss the variation in post-transplant appearance with potential candidates for facial transplant. The issue of correlating facial appearance with "identity transfer" will be difficult to assess until the authors' first facial transplantation is performed.:

It was just an interesting little tidbit that made me think of BL, Game of Thrones and the movie Faceoff.

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Tatiana - Yes, Ressler did confirm the fingerprints as Reddington's in the pilot. We've discussed that a lot over the years.  There are many articles online with detailed instructions on how to make fake fingerprints. But whether any of them would be good enough to fool the FBI is questionable. I probably wouldn't be able to fool the FBI. But Red, with his incredible resources, might.

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Tatiana wrote:

I think the donor would need to be alive yet. Gruesome thought, what if Raymond wasn't dead but critically injured and they kept him alive long enough to take skin for a graft to Katarina. Now that would be morbid.

I replied before without reading your whole message. Yes, that would be gruesome (a Katarina word). And awful and unforgivable.

The techniques I read about for making fingerprints didn't rely on skin grafts, but you need access to the real fingerprints to make them. I did some research, and most skin used for skin grafts comes from cadavers.