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5/01/2019 12:43 am  #1


Dialog between Katarina and Ilya

 Dialog between Ilya and Katarina.   


 I, Katarina.  I thought you were dead.

 K, I am dead. 
 
 I, What are we doing here? 

 K, Making sure I stay that way.  

 I, I cannot believe you're alive.
  The papers, How did How did they get it wrong?
 
 K, They didn't. I went into the ocean to end my life.
 
 I,  Yeah, but you came back.

 
 K, I told you my plan.
 
 I, Yeah, well, we need a new plan, one that has even
 a remote chance of success.
 
 K, The KGB knows I betrayed them.
  The Cabal knows I had an affair with a man who has information
 that could destroy them. I am marked, and so is
 everybody I care about guilt by association.
  I won't stand still for that.
 
 I, That is what I hate about you.
 
 K, Don't say that.
 
 I, Well, don't take it personally.
  It's how, uh, all moral relativists feel about righteousness
 in the face of impossible odds.
  On the plus side, I'll have nothing but love for you if we succeed,
  which we won't.
 
  K, We? 

 I, Well, we pledged our lives to each other. 

K, When we were 6. 

I, And a promise is a promise. 

 K, Okay. For this to work, we'd need passports,cash, access, time.
 
  I, Okay, well, which of those do we have? 

 K, None.
 
  I, What, not even time?  I don't understand.
 The world thinks you're dead. 

K, There was an incident at the shelter a man with a gun.
  Velov will hear about it.
  The news of my death would fool most. It won't fool Velov.
 
  K, We did the right thing, right? 

  I, What thing? 

 K, Pulling him from the fire, trying to save his life?
  I can't stop thinking about those firefighters,
  what might have happened if we'd left him there
  if they found him, maybe they could've gotten him help,
  saved Raymond's life. 

I, He would've burned to death.
  We did everything we could, and we got him out. 

K, And yet, he died. 

I, Look here. Glasses. Good luck, Anna Croft.  



After she sees her mom. 



I, She's safe.
 
  K, And out of my life. 

  I, Yeah, for now.
 
  K, Forever.
 
  I, You don't know that.  We got to her first, before Velov.
  Maybe we were wrong about him. Maybe he's not as close as we think.
   Maybe he's not … 
 
  K, Don't stop. It's him. Brown coat.  it's Velov.
 
  I, How? 

K, The man I killed at the shelter.  I used his credit card to pay for the room. 

I, There's nothing in the room that would tell them where we're going. 

K, If he knows I'm alive, he already knows where we're going next. 
 
K, I have to see him. 

I, Velov's men are here to arrest you. 

K, They can't arrest what they can't see. 

I, We have to go in together. 

K, I'll be fine. 


After Ilya kills Velov's  men at Dom's. 


  D, Ilya. 

  I, Sir. It's been too long.
 
  K, We have to get rid of the bodies.
 
  D, You're on her side, too?
 
  I, At that moment, I'd say we are all on the same side, sir. 

  K, They'll destroy him.
 
  I, We did everything we could. We warned him to get out. 
 
  K, Not Papa. Raymond.
 
  I, Reddington's dead.
 
  K, You and I know that, but the Cabal think he's on the run, a liability.
  They'll discredit him to undermine his proof of their existence.
 
  I, Okay, so, you destroy the reputation of a dead man.
 
  K, He had a wife and a daughter.
  She's nearly the same age as Masha.  Jennifer's her name.
  They'll be told that he was a criminal and a traitor, 

 I, And they won't believe it.
 
  K, Don't you understand?  He was my asset.
  I'd been siphoning intel off of him for years.
  You don't think we had plans in place to destroy him if he ever found out that
 he was sleeping with the enemy?
 
 I, Of course they did. 

 K, Money in secret accounts. Paper trails of payoffs.
  Passports in safety-deposit boxes evidence that I
 didn't steal his secrets, but that he shared them with me. 

 I, Alternate history. 

 K, They will destroy him  and they will destroy us, and they won't stop until they do.  



Out on the balcony. 


 I, Katarina!  Stop! Katarina, stop!
 
  K, You said we'd figure a way out of this, and I have.
  You tracked me down here. We fought. I went over the edge.
  You'll be a hero. You'll get your life back.
 
  I, Katarina, please, I have a way to get your life back,
  a way for me to get my life back, a way to escape the Cabal,
  the KGB, the Americans, and no one has to die.
  The world doesn't know what happened
  to Raymond Reddington, Katarina.
  It is a mystery, right?
  So, we give them the answer.
 
  K, What does that mean?
 
  I, Will you let me explain? Let me explain.
 
  K, No. 

 I,  Please, let me explain.
    
  K,  It's clever. But it's absurd.
 
 I, No one knows that Reddington's dead.
 
 K, It would never work.
 
  I, In time, they will think he is on the run, 
  a fugitive and traitor to his country.
 
 K, Because I framed him.
 
 I, Yes, and if the fugitive Raymond Reddington
  can disappear without a trace, then why wouldn't it stand to reason
  that the money you framed him with could disappear, as well?
 
 K. Ilya, it's not that simple.
 
 I, I think it is.
 
  K, Raymond is the only one who can access those accounts.
 
  I, How much? 

  K, I mean, those banks are known to bend the rules.
  They work with criminals, but still, that doesn't
 
  I,Just humor me. How much?
 
  K, $40 million.
   
  I, That is more than we would ever need to stay two steps ahead
  of the the KGB, the Cabal, the Americans.
 
  K, It was easy to get those funds wired in,
  but Raymond would have to show up in person to access that money.
  And since he died in my arms, he won't be able to.
 
  I, I don't think you're entirely grasping what I'm suggesting.
  
  K, What are you suggesting?
 
  I, Becoming Reddington.
 
  K, That would be impossible.
 
  I, What if it's not?
  What if Raymond Reddington were alive
  and able to walk into those banks?
  Of course, we couldn't pull it off alone.
  We'd need help.
 
  I, We need personal details about who Raymond was
  his family life, his work life.
 
  I, And who better to provide those details
  than the woman who spied on him
  who loved him, the woman who invented him?
 
 K, Stop. I hear you. It's a desperate, if not bold, plan.
 
  K, But there's still one thing that doesn't make any sense.
   Why would you do that?
  
  I, To protect you.
 
  K, They'll hunt you.  You'll never be able to stop running. 

  I, Isn't that what we've been doing? Running.
  Besides, why do I have to keep reminding you?  We pledged our lives.
 
  K, Promise me one thing.
 
  I, Anything.
 
 K, If they get to me, if they take me, take care of Masha.
 
 I, Like she was my own.

 


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5/01/2019 12:45 am  #2


Re: Dialog between Katarina and Ilya

I think Gabriel knocked this right out of the park!  He really is a great actor.  

 


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5/01/2019 6:13 am  #3


Re: Dialog between Katarina and Ilya

Eastcoast - Thanks for posting all the Ilya dialog here!

 

5/01/2019 10:14 am  #4


Re: Dialog between Katarina and Ilya

Eastcoast, thank you!
It's fascinating to me to see just the words in paper. We know TBL likes to play a slight of hand to distract us from what's really happening.
I find myself wondering if Ilya isn't actually Dom or the people are 'switched' like the first memory doctor told Liz. Dom doesn't want to tell Liz everything so he changes it up a little bit.
I also find his depiction of Katarina to be contrary to what we know of Katarina.
Red tells us in season 1nthat Katarina was the most resourceful woman he had ever known.

Ilya didn't come up with the idea, Dom didn't come up with the idea (to become Raymond) it was Katarina who came up with the idea.


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

5/01/2019 1:29 pm  #5


Re: Dialog between Katarina and Ilya

Katarina invented Reddington the Traitor, but it was Illya's idea to pose as Reddington the Traitor. Katarina's plan was to discredit him if their affair ever was found out that he had been a willing participant.

It's looking like Real Reddington was maybe part of the Fulcrum team, maybe working with Fitch and Caul on it? Reddington ended up with it, hiding it in Liz's bunny. We had always wondered why, if her father hid it there, Red didn't know about it. Of course, that's been solved. I wonder if Katarina ever knew it was there? Anyway, it was going to be their way to keep the Cabal at bay.

It doesn't sound to me like Reddington died in the fire, but died from the fire. He was still alive when they pulled him out, but he later died in her arms. I am thinking that he may have died after Katarina took Masha back to Kate at the motel room. Then they buried him at Tansi Farms under the tree. I suppose that's why Kate apologized to Katarina when she dug him up. So was Kate present when they buried him? In Requiem I had the idea that Kate and Katarina didn't see each other again, only spoke on the phone. Maybe Katarina told him what they did and that he was buried under the tree marked with a "K". Illya was likely there, helping.

So, did Illya go with her to Cape May? Try to stop her? He said he'd been there, once. She went into the water and he thought she was dead, no body ever found. When he sees her again his first words were "Katarina, I thought you were dead."

When Reddington failed to show up for Christmas was his disappearance staged by Katarina and Illya?

Then she does her Cape May thing to try to vanish and make Velov think she was dead. But she blows her cover by killing the Russian guy and needs Illya to help her, setting the stage for Rassvet.

I suppose. But Dom is free to embellish, leave out, or modify the story to suit Liz's vision, so how much is fluff and how much is foundation, we still don't really know.


“I am exactly who I am. And I can assure you, I’m a far more interesting Raymond Reddington than Raymond Reddington ever was."
 

5/02/2019 1:07 am  #6


Re: Dialog between Katarina and Ilya

Tatiana, I was wondering about that, but we really do not know much about her except what Red has told Liz. It does not mean to me that she was not more resourceful before all this happened.  She may have been before all the crap hit the fan.  She was a very emotional and unstable person with all the things going on.  When he told Liz that, he needed her to pick herself up, grab some confidence and think fast. 
He was also in love with her.  Maybe out of all the woman he knew maybe she was.   

 


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