lara1 - What did happen to the old war and the map of doom?  I wonder if TBL will ever get back to that.

 

Regarding the old war and map of doom...didn't he say the Cabal was planning something for 2017? Maybe real life got too close for comfort for the producers, and they want to give us escapism; not what's actually on the news...

LD Jones - I don't think he killed Emma, just tucked her out of the way in Vermont.  I think that's the fourth time he has done that...  Maybe Naomi is up in Vermont too (just kidding!)

I don't think he bothered correcting Liz as that was overshadowed by Liz's comment on Kaplan.  Red had to be shocked by that, and any comment on Emma might have been pointless at that point -

Emma betrayed Red, but she didn't really betray him to someone else,  or steal something from him, she just stole something that he could not let her keep.  But still, he couldn't trust her any longer.....though for a second there I had shades of Newton Phillips thinking something WAS going to happen to her "You should have come to me"....

The interesting thing for me is now we have seen Red reacting to this "betrayal" in a different way.  has he learned from Kate?

Also did you notice how he slipped and said "Kate" to Liz and then immediately corrected himself with "Mr Kaplan"

lara1 wrote:

"Center of the universe"  hmmmmm  sounds a bit like Carla.....

That was the first thought that came in my mind too!

 

LD Jones - good point about the Cabal and map of doom. Would be neat if Red's latest enemy is someone who was already on the show - a Cabal or Shell Island member.

Maybe Madelyn Pratt is trying to get Red's attention again. After all, Valentine's Day is only weeks away :-)

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Eastcoast wrote:

LDJones wrote:

Liz isn't even disguised! Her face wad recently on national tv when she was pardoned.

This has really been bothering me too. I can see her as an Agent, but the undercover is a bit out there.  But... this is TV land and it's in the script!


 

Eastcoast - that did bother me too, at the beginning.  But as you, I just resigned myself that this is TV, and this is where they are going.  At the end of the day I thought it was a really good episode so there we are.....We will have to suspend disbelief!  after a few episodes maybe it won't even bother me any more....LOL

Tuxie400 - actually this episode reminded me a little of Maddie - Liz and Maddie planning the "robbery"......but yeah I wonder what Maddie is up to these days??

BRILLIANT - BRAVO - BRAVO - BRAVO - IMMO
A wonderful mix of The Avengers meets Charlies Angels meets The Mean Girls.
Easily Megan Boone's finest moments - great performances by all The Mean Girls especially Emma Knightley (the woman who played her) with substantial but toned-down performance by Spader.
Not the hugest fan of Jill Hennessey (who played Harem's lead mean girl) but she toned down her usual southernly accented, bubble-gum chewing persona.
Great all around work - w/ Megan and the British Lady emerging as stars. Amazing touch vis a vis Mr. Kaplan's sister!
I think this is the episode we were all waiting for. Golden Globe for M. Boone!

Eastcoast wrote:

Colleen, #29 LOL, that was a good one!!

lara1,
I sure hope Red has learned. He did seam a bit emotional.
Once he gets ahold of himself I a wondering if he is going to ponder over what else Dembe might say
to her that HE thinks is important for Liz to know. That was Kaplan's mistake.
On the other hand, I would have thought she would have figured that out on her own by now.

Uh,  speaking of those things, I have been thinking about the good Dr. all week. If he did let him live before, it was before he Knew he had been lied to and betrayed. I am thinking if he would kill Kaplan then it is nothing for him to kill him too. But possibly given her reaction and seeing how hurt she was he might not? Not sure about it?

 

Eastocast - yeah, we haven't seen Dr. Nik for a long time now.   then again, we haven't seen Red's ICU assembled for any reason and kaplan coordinates that......hmmm

I thought the same thing about Dembe....he told Liz because he thought she should know.  Red says, "I understand."
I didn't really get Red's meaning though - does he really understand?  Why did Dembe think she should know (from Red's perspective?).  From DEmbe's perspective he is worried about Red.  But what is Red's take on why Dembe thought she should know?  Maybe Red is in more inner turmoil than we know over Kaplan.

It does seem less likely now though that Red knows that Kaplan is alive.  Or maybe he does?  He didn't really address Liz's comment.  Maybe he felt that there was nothing he could say that would make it better, make it undone....
BUT the interesting thing though is he starts that story with liz thinking that he killed Emma....and that he killed Kaplan...whereas he did not kill Emma and did not say anything.....whereas.....maybe - he did not kill Kaplan and did not say anything!   LOL round in circles we can go again!!!!  
 

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lara1 wrote:

BBB- agree. in particular I think Liz was very well written in this episode and Megan stepped up to the plate.  good performances all around, the actors made a very good ensemble as well.

First time I believe an outside ensemble kinda ran the show! I liked it very much - real confidence-builder for Ms. Boone, too!