The Blacklist Refugees

You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?



3/20/2020 7:13 pm  #1


Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Enjoy folks!


It's a shame you have no crackers  
 

3/20/2020 8:30 pm  #2


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

We;re back!


Red: I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it
 

3/20/2020 8:32 pm  #3


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Kind of a lazy re-entry into the world of Red Reddington . . . 

no real stand-out star in this episode - - - although I found the young lady forgery artist to be very solid in her TBL debut . .. 

Nothing else stood out - Red a bit more chatty than usual - Liz getting way too comfortable and cavalier with Red . . . 

Even Aram & Elody kinda blah . . . 


Red: I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it
 

3/20/2020 10:21 pm  #4


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

I sort of liked Red being dragged along as a dead body. That was fun. I also liked Red telling Liz that Fakerina was a fake.

 

3/21/2020 12:44 am  #5


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Big Badd Bazzer wrote:

Kind of a lazy re-entry into the world of Red Reddington . . . 

no real stand-out star in this episode - - - although I found the young lady forgery artist to be very solid in her TBL debut . .. 

Nothing else stood out - Red a bit more chatty than usual - Liz getting way too comfortable and cavalier with Red . . . 

Even Aram & Elody kinda blah . . . 

I think the problem for me was that I was expecting something better after waiting for months.... 

Liz just cannot keep a secret. 
 
I enjoyed the forger too BBB.  I thought her expressions were on point!

Maybe the rewatch will show me something else I find exciting enough to comment on.


It's a shame you have no crackers  
     Thread Starter
 

3/21/2020 9:27 am  #6


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Other than the Victoria La Forger most of the guest stars appeared a bit uncomfortable and rushed in their roles. The opening sequence featuring a smattering of "Red Ruffians" was an old rubric the writers can always fall back upon. Where was Jellybean (Glen)?


Red: I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it
 

3/21/2020 1:24 pm  #7


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Maybe someone caught this info, but I couldn't understand how Victoria's father had caused the death of her partner's son. Apparently the father owned a drug company, so guess it had to do with that. But I didn't think it was ever explained.

I enjoyed Dembe's birthday party and Red's gift of the scarf.

 

3/21/2020 2:19 pm  #8


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

I also now think Elodie is trying to get information about the task force from Aram.  She was way too interested in their cases.  Could she be working for the Townsend Directive?

 

3/21/2020 2:56 pm  #9


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Tuxie400 wrote:

Maybe someone caught this info, but I couldn't understand how Victoria's father had caused the death of her partner's son. Apparently the father owned a drug company, so guess it had to do with that. But I didn't think it was ever explained.

From what I understood he got addicted to the drugs they prescribed, but I missed how that resulted in his death. 

I really enjoyed this episode. While I hated the Elodie plot before, it's starting to grow on me. Red had some brilliant moments here which I didn't expect as one of the IMDb reviews complained about too little Red. The Blacklist case was also interesting enough and I think Victoria Fenberg was a great character. Especially her awkwardness at the meeting with Red was acted really well. At the moment I have hopes that this season is improving from its first half, but of course we'll have to see. 

 

3/21/2020 3:38 pm  #10


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Yeti - I wasn't sure if they were implying he got addicted to drugs like opioids, or whether it was a case where the company knew there were lethal side effects but put it on the market anyway.  A sentence of exact explanation would have helpled.  I thought there were plenty of good Spader scenes throughout the episode. Some viewers just want an all Spader show, I think.

 

3/21/2020 5:31 pm  #11


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

The intensity and mild unpredictability of Samar Navabi's character is sorely missed. Laura Sohn's portrayal of Agent Park is a shadow of Samar, both in back-story and acting. And nothing wrong with Laura Sohn, she's a very good TV actor. Just a few levels below our beloved Mozhan Marno
Would love to see Mozhan re-surface late this season - or even at some point next year.


Red: I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it
 

3/22/2020 1:29 am  #12


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Big Badd Bazzer wrote:

The intensity and mild unpredictability of Samar Navabi's character is sorely missed. Laura Sohn's portrayal of Agent Park is a shadow of Samar, both in back-story and acting. And nothing wrong with Laura Sohn, she's a very good TV actor. Just a few levels below our beloved Mozhan Marno
Would love to see Mozhan re-surface late this season - or even at some point next year.

 
I agree. I like how you worded that. Unpredictable character.  I would love to see her come back as long as it isn't more depressing.  Lol.

Nothing wrong with Park, she just doesn't fit in here for me. Not yet anyway.  Maybe after our Alaska episode I will feel differently.


It's a shame you have no crackers  
     Thread Starter
 

3/22/2020 1:39 am  #13


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Tuxie400 wrote:

Yeti - I wasn't sure if they were implying he got addicted to drugs like opioids, or whether it was a case where the company knew there were lethal side effects but put it on the market anyway.  A sentence of exact explanation would have helpled.  I thought there were plenty of good Spader scenes throughout the episode. Some viewers just want an all Spader show, I think.

 

Tuxie,  I took it that he had an overdose.  I was a bit overwhelmed of this subject line.  The media has worn it out for me.  I really don't like seeing it in my shows. 
It just seams like too much politics sometimes.

I did read some stuff when I googled the show a while back,  and I saw several comments from people who just wanted a Spader show without Liz?   He is there because of her.


It's a shame you have no crackers  
     Thread Starter
 

3/22/2020 1:47 am  #14


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

TheYeti wrote:

Tuxie400 wrote:

Maybe someone caught this info, but I couldn't understand how Victoria's father had caused the death of her partner's son. Apparently the father owned a drug company, so guess it had to do with that. But I didn't think it was ever explained.

From what I understood he got addicted to the drugs they prescribed, but I missed how that resulted in his death. 

I really enjoyed this episode. While I hated the Elodie plot before, it's starting to grow on me. Red had some brilliant moments here which I didn't expect as one of the IMDb reviews complained about too little Red. The Blacklist case was also interesting enough and I think Victoria Fenberg was a great character. Especially her awkwardness at the meeting with Red was acted really well. At the moment I have hopes that this season is improving from its first half, but of course we'll have to see. 

Yeti, that plot hasn't grown on me.  I feel like they make Aram look stupid.  She might be another plant like the other one. Maybe she's looking for Samar or KR?   
That ventilator sound reminded me of the Susan Hargrave episode. 
I started thinking maybe he was in a coma and this was a dream, because who could lay there and listen to that given the circumstances?  👀

And, I ate half a box of those donuts last night! Lol

 

Last edited by Eastcoast (3/22/2020 1:48 am)


It's a shame you have no crackers  
     Thread Starter
 

3/24/2020 9:37 am  #15


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Honey West, Iowa Watcher, Tatiana and others, are you all OK during the outbreak? I'm missing your input.

 

3/24/2020 12:50 pm  #16


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Fine out here in shelter-in-place land. But, as you know, California is one of the three major outbreak hotspots, along with Seattle area and NYC area. So on Friday we went on statewide shutdown. Many people decided that shelter in place meant "hey let's party, we're on vacation" so yesterday the governor ordered the shutdown of all state-owned parking lots to discourage people from all heading to the beaches at once and replicating Florida at spring break scenes. Anyway, got a little OT there, but it is a good excuse to watch TV and work on things around the house.

I liked the episode; it was nice to have a caper story that did not involve huge quantities of bloody shoot-outs. It was fun to watch Red realize that he'd been hoodwinked and go after the perps. The Blacklister was good, too. Aram is finally realizing that Elodie is not such a good idea, but he is totally like a moth to the flame at this point. Might as well face it, he's addicted to love. I wonder who she works for. It's gotta be someone like the Cabal, the Townsend Directive people or maybe even a new org that we have yet to be introduced to. Red's Map of Doom didn't specifically name who all of the colored dots belonged to.

Anyway, the episode was pretty much a setup one. Setting up the next one, which would have been the second hour and probably made more sense in context with that one; setting up Liz and Ressler's secrets sharing and what they will do going forward; Aram and Elodie's increasingly dysfunctional relationship (Aram seems to be the most mole-prone member of the team); and, for us, knowing that there's a season 8 to start laying the groundwork for.

I had to take my cat to the vet over the weekend, and they have a new virus protocol where you park, call them, a masked and gloved tech comes out and takes your pet inside, and you talk to the vet on the phone before they bring your pet back out to you when they are finished.  So you have a LOT of time to kill waiting in your car. It's not like you can get out and go shopping or anything. I have a minivan with a nice DVD player for the back seats. So I took my season 1 DVDs and watched the Pilot again. I haven't watched it for quite some time. The one thing that still stands out and I can't figure is Red's line about Liz being abandoned by a father who was a career criminal and a mother who died of weakness and shame. Did he mean Sam, her adoptive father, or could he have been referring to Kirk, or ? Real Reddington was a career Naval officer, not a career criminal, yet the DNA shows he was her father. Anyway, just some thoughts and wonderings.


“I am exactly who I am. And I can assure you, I’m a far more interesting Raymond Reddington than Raymond Reddington ever was."
 

3/25/2020 12:46 am  #17


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

HW, that bugs me too about what he said in the Pilot.

I hope your little furbaby gets better soon! 

Tuxie, I was going to ask that myself.  Where is everyone?
I hope everyone is well.


It's a shame you have no crackers  
     Thread Starter
 

3/25/2020 10:21 am  #18


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Honey West - I was worried we hadn't heard from you precisely because you are in a hotspot. My city, Nashville, is hard hit and contains most of my state's virus cases. The city went on a stay-at-home order the same day one was issued in CA. I hope your kitty is OK. Stay safe in these perilous times!

I too enjoyed a caper without so much bloodshed. You are so right about Aram being drawn to Elodie like a moth to a light - even though he knows better. 
 

 

3/25/2020 12:26 pm  #19


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Thanks EC and Tux! I did end up taking kitty back to the hospital last night and she was so dehydrated she will need to stay a couple of days on IV fluids. But they report she is doing very well and they are hopeful that she will make a full recovery and can go home. The lockdown means I can't visit her in the hospital as I normally would but she is getting a lot of attention and TLC. She's sort of a staff favorite because they've known her for most of her 19 1/2 years.

I was just starting The Freelancer when I had to talk to the vet, so I didn't get into it much past the very start. This is the first time I have watched those first episodes since we had the imposter reveal and everything since then, so it's like watching them with fresh eyes.

I'm looking forward to Friday's episode as the previews make me think it could have a Ten Little Indians vibe. (Actual title "And Then There Were None" by Agatha Christie) But with a Blacklist twist, I'm sure.

I do need to visit the grocery store, hoping it's early enough to get some yogurt and I'd like to get some eggs if they have any. I can also mail a bill while I am there so it will save a trip to the post office. Yes these are perilous times indeed! In my county we've had 88 confirmed cases with 4 deaths. 2 of those people went to a church in my neighborhood. And 5 other church members tested positive. And I'm sure we all shop at the same grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Well, we just have to do the best we can as individuals and hope everyone else is doing the same. Be safe out there!

I'm going to start a thread on the OT section for people to check in.


“I am exactly who I am. And I can assure you, I’m a far more interesting Raymond Reddington than Raymond Reddington ever was."
 

3/25/2020 8:11 pm  #20


Re: Episode 7-11, Victoria Fenberg.

Honey West - I know it must hard not to visit your kitty at the animal hospital. Here in Nashville we've had 253 confirmed cases but only three deaths. Most of the cases in our city are not as virulent as in other states. I think only four were bad enough to be hospitalized so far. Today we only had four new cases, so I'm hoping the Safe at Home protocol is working here. I've been coughing and have had a slight fever for about five days, but I don't have any shortness of breath.. So I don't know if it's a regular cold or Covid-19.

 

Board footera

 

Powered by Boardhost. Create a Free Forum