"Dembe doing needlepoint" - not.
Dembe was doing embroidery.  Rosey Grier does needlepoint.
https://www.maharam.com/stories/boyer_dual-threat-the-needlepoint-of-rosey-grier

LOL! Needlepoint is a type of embroidery, but clearly, Dembe was doing embroidery. 
I did a lot of embroidery in the 70's. Denim shirts, jeans. All by hand. Had a boyfriend who loved embroidered shirts.

Yes, Tuxie, I thought Ilya's reaction to Liz was sort of surprising. I just figured he had maybe only known her as a very small child and certainly only before Liz's memory wipe. He was there on Fire Night, wasn't he? Maybe Red told him that she had begun to remember things from that night and that's what he was worried about. Who knows. But I am sure looking forward to the mid-season finale and wondering if we will learn anything more about that.

The show-runners could prolly get another 3 or 4 years of service out of this show if they morphed it into what its apparently becoming - a TV spy drama that's turning into a veritable "Seinfeld" semi-dark sitcom.

Call it "SPADER" or even "SPADER WORLD"

RedIsMyCoPilot wrote:

I hereby dub this episode the tribute to CHINATOWN:

I'm his father AND his mother!



 

How similar to what Redarina theorists think Red will be to Liz.
 

Tuxie400 wrote:

Eastcoast - I noticed the brown corduroy jacket too. Tom, Kaplan, Dom, and now Ilya have worn a brown corduroy jacket. I remember the old days when we used to consider symbolism more seriously.

I believe symbolism was used, quite effectively, in the show, but it "feels" like they've either dropped it altogether or they've just become sloppy about it. 

Makes me kind of sad.

I also notice the look on Ilya's face when Liz came by!  He definitely had a reaction.  I think I'll go back and rewatch that scene a few times.

Just a head's up.  I notice on the schedule for that week that there's no episode on Nov 29th, which of course is to be expected as it's Thanksgiving weekend.  So we'll have one this coming Friday and then skip a week.

 

Yes, with 7.10 being the mid-season finale.

On the rewatch I really don’t see any specific reaction by Frank when Liz shows up at the campsite. He’s amused by her joke about Red's food choice, but mostly just seems to be observing her.

Frank's back is to the audience when Liz walks up so we don't see his initial reaction but he definitely has a 'look' when she passes him. Then he laughs at her joke and excuses himself.  It's that initial look that they showed him having that is interesting to me.  To me it looks like he someone who has heard about someone for a long time, and it's the first time they seem them in person? Or possibly he's thinking how much she looks like her mother?  Or maybe it's apprehension because now she's going to meet him and know who he is instead of being in the shadows?

I rewatched it (at the official NBC site online) and then thought to search youtube to see if it was posted. It was. So now we can all rewatch those 30 seconds more easily. I have multiple times <g>.  (I edited the link so it starts right when Liz walks up. If you hit the settings button in the lower right corner you can change the speed of the clip. I slowed it down by half and was able to perseverate on it even more.)

https://youtu.be/lZKKweu69eE?t=34
 

Last edited by KathyN (11/20/2019 8:40 pm)

Honey West wrote:

Thanks, KathyN. I think you are correct in your description of Frank's reaction. Someone he’s heard about for a long time and finally meets. He likely met her as a child but hasn’t seen her as an adult. His reaction was interest, not shock or surprise. As they said in the previews, KR now has someone who has all of the answers. So I think it’s safe to say that Ilya probably knows "everything".

Yes, interest.I didn't see it as shock or suprise either.  He's known about her for years, heard about her, everything they're doing now is about her.  And then she walks up and right past him, looking a lot like Lotte Verbeek btw, and he had that expression of 'interest'.  He's a great actor, he played it really well.