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8/19/2019 10:44 am  #81


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

I agree, Tuxie400. It goes along with Red's statement in the Pilot "I think you're VERY special."
I like how in the DVDs Spader says that they have been shooting towards the end of the story since the beginning. Apparently everything points to the ending and there are a lot of things, like Red's comments about his mother during his last meal in prison that won't make perfect sense until the end of the series. I hope it provides us with a satisfying moment or two!
 


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8/19/2019 10:49 am  #82


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Meanwhile, I've managed to watch the gag reel and the two special features, Blacklist Revealed - which is the intro to season 6, and the Deceptions one. Good interviews, but nothing earth-shattering, of course. The Disc 5 that contains those things starts with "Rassvet", and it had some deleted scenes. There's a longer scene of Liz arriving at Dom's and confronting him with who she is to him, about Katarina 'You're not her handler, you're her father", sort of thing. He refuses to talk to her and she goes to her car. Before she drives away he's had a change of heart and knocks on her window and tells her to come back inside. There's another scene of Katarina going through a desk in the shelter; and another of Illya taking Katarina's mother to meet with her that last time. As she heads towards the cafe, they linger on his face and he looks sad. 

I'll try to watch more later. Maybe take notes on the deleted scenes so i can remember them better! LOL!


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8/19/2019 4:11 pm  #83


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Tuxie - you always amaze me with your attention to detail. Yes, they did mention she had a lot of adhesions from her appendix. 
I keep going back to Liz being special and important because of something in her body, whether an actual "something" or her genetics or whatever it might be.

Also, after looking at the Pilot again, I'm reminded that Ranko Zamani said, "..the children...I am giving their plague back to them...my legacy".
Listening to that it reminded me of "The Cyprus Agency" when that neurotic CEO admitted in the end with a grin on his face that all of the children were conceived using his sperm/genetics. That's his legacy.

=14pxWhat's interesting about this legacy is that it is a physical legacy.
 


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8/19/2019 8:57 pm  #84


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Tatiana - It's interesting that you brought up the idea of a legacy. Legacies - both good and evil - are mentioned in several other seasons besides 1.  In Season 2, Francis King talked about the winning the auction competition as a means to his legacy and the King Family fortune. In the Longevity Instiitute, Red told Roger Hobbs that Hobbs wanted his longevity experiments to work because they would be his legacy.  In the Kenyon Family, David Kenyon tells his tortured father that what the boys are doing is his father's legacy.  And last season, I find it very interesting what Dr. Nikkila said about his work to weaponize insects:  "That will be my legacy.  I will not remembered as a destroyer of their (insects') world, but their savior."  What if Red, through these clinical trials, is trying to find a cure for some inherited family disease, so he will be remembered not as a destroyer of his family, but as it's savior.

In that same vein, I've been rethinking what Red said about the Takoma Park house; "This was where I raised my family."  What if what he really said was, "This is where I razed (completely destroyed) my family."  We now know that Katarina being outed as RR's lover completely destroyed her family unit: Dom, her mother, and Masha.  Bokenkamp has said in podcast intereviews more than once that he gets a kick out of things that can be interpreted more than one way.  So I think the house could be where Katarina was recruited into the KGB or where she first began her seduction of real RR.

 

8/19/2019 10:46 pm  #85


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Tuxie - Legacy is permeated throughout. Legacy can be good or evil. I was even thinking of "Alter Ego". The father never acknowledged the son until his will was read and the message from him was sweet and loving... something about do good things with the fruits of my labor which in essence is carrying on his legacy.

I agree with you that it could be "razed" or "raised" although I hadn't thought of your angle. 

 


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

8/20/2019 9:04 am  #86


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Tatiana - Good point about the father in Alter Ego.  Kirk talking to Liz about leaving her and Agnes his money as an inheritance was also a legacy of sorts.  And Red before his lethal injection talked about the money he had cobbled together for Liz.

 

8/20/2019 1:10 pm  #87


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

I haven't rewatched any of the deleted scenes yet, but I do recall that in the extended Dom/Liz scene she asks if her mother is still alive and Dom says "She's gone." He doesn't say that she's dead, just "gone".


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8/20/2019 2:15 pm  #88


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Honey West - Yes, gone, like Red said Kirk was gone.

 

8/20/2019 7:17 pm  #89


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

HoneyWest - "gone" for Red usually doesn't mean dead. As the concierge of crime, his specialty is giving people new identities. 

Tuxie - In addition to "legacy" to what extent have we talked about the word "special" in the Pilot?
The special thing their daddy has or gives them is related to bravery. 

Red, "Oh, I think you're very special"

Liz and Beth,
"My daddy has a pin like that.
Oh, yeah? I bet your daddy has lots of medals.
To get a pin like this you gotta be really brave
This can be your special pin, okay?"

I was scared when I was your age, too.
But I had a secret weapon to keep me safe.
My daddy gave it to me.
It's very special
I"ve never shown it to anybody
It's like magic.
What does it do?
Whenever I'm feeling sad or afraid, I just touch it like this, and it makes me brave.
 


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

8/21/2019 10:25 am  #90


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Well, Liz is certainly brave. She never waivers on that trait.

 

8/28/2019 9:16 am  #91


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Tuxie400 wrote:

Well, Liz is certainly brave. She never waivers on that trait.

 

Yes she is Tuxie!  
 


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9/04/2019 10:17 pm  #92


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Ok, not sure where to put this, but why was the Corsican hired to blow up the UN?
 


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9/05/2019 3:40 pm  #93


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Tatiana wrote:

Ok, not sure where to put this, but why was the Corsican hired to blow up the UN?
 

Why indeed?  It didn't seem to go with the reveal that the president wanted to kill the first lady so she wouldn't squeal about his hit and run.  It was the lamest plot ever on The Blacklist.  It makes me wonder if they weren't headed in another direction, and the network wouldn't let them go there.
 

 

9/05/2019 5:07 pm  #94


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Tuxie - thank you! I wanted to make sure we weren't missing something. I would not be surprised if the network put a kibosh on blowing up the U.N. building and I would have to say, that's understandable. Still. There were too many orphan plot lines in the first half of season 6. 
Remember Detective Gale? His story just died on the vine at the end of season 4. I know the actor who played him posted some photos from shootings and I've often wondered if the show runners just didn't care for that and let him go. I kind of wondered the same thing about the actress playing Jennifer, because I really thought they were going to do more with the story between Liz and Jennifer. 
More of my musings...


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

9/06/2019 8:34 pm  #95


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Tatiana - No, we weren't missing something - the plot was. LOL  I agree about orphan plot lines. There have been many in al the seasons. But most of the writing is brilliant, so we have to overlook them.

 

9/16/2019 9:52 am  #96


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

I just thought I'd post this clip from an interview with the showrunners. It can feel like they are misleading us, but evidently they are not:

2016 IBT:

“We cannot unpack a story point like she thinks she shot her father and then introduce a new element that completely negates it, because that would damage our relationship with the audience and their trust in the story that we’re telling. All of the things that you would point to and add up on one side of the ledger that might discount this guy’s story about his being her father, we are responsible for next year and in years to come to incorporate it into the story that we’ve already told,” Eisendrath added.


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

9/17/2019 1:28 am  #97


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

I remember in one interview one of them had mentioned that they didn't feel a need to close a gap on everything. 

I understand that to a small degree,  but this is a show that is a puzzle.  So it is annoying to us. 

I personally wanted to see Liz learn that Smokey was found.  I also want to know what was in his hand since they made sure they zoomed in on it. I had expected that to be addressed, but it wasn't. 

I also wanted them to finish what they started about Tom being taken as a child. 
Maybe they will close the gaps before the end of the show.

😴


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9/19/2019 3:10 pm  #98


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Eastcoast wrote:

I also wanted them to finish what they started about Tom being taken as a child.
Maybe they will close the gaps before the end of the show.
😴

Me, too! I'd love some closure on that whole Tom Bond thing.

 

9/24/2019 11:13 pm  #99


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

Our great friend Amir Arison just showed up on the season opener of "BULL ON CBS". Obviously he can work wherever he wants because he's not one of the prime stars of The Blacklist.

Plays an ADA that goes toe to toe w/ Bull on the episode "Labor Days"

Amir as a courtroom lawyer - really interesting!


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9/24/2019 11:20 pm  #100


Re: Season 6-7 Hiatus Links and Such

I saw that BBB.  I like him better as Aram.  But he did a great job. 
Good to see you back!


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