Keep in mind that Red said to Jennifer, you want to know why your father abandoned you. Third person.

It's another one of those strange TBL things.

I know, EC, it’s like the curse of the Cartwright women.

Well maybe Samar’s disappearance will delay Reds flight long enough that he won’t need brain surgery after all.

CindyKC - Although I don't know if Naomi is really dead, I do know Red in not infallible. The date on Naomi's  tombstone was 2017. If it happened during the time Red was under siege from Kaplan, I could see how he would have missed it.

Tuxie400 wrote:

The dialog between Red and Jennifer, like the example you gave, does keep the Mommy theory and other imposter theories alive.
 

We're thinking alike, again. I'm starting to wonder if the "real" RR is Jennifer's father and the imposter is Liz's real father but the real RR is not her father.

I forgot who wrote it (sorry! my netbook won't let me scroll back), but I agree that the actress who played Carla/N. not wanting to return changed the writer's plans sounds like what happened. They needed to re-do the story arc on the fly, again. If they bring Carla/N. back, she will have had plastic surgery, but I can see where maybe they've dropped this idea, and that why the pieces aren't fitting together that well.

I could be wrong.

As a writer, I feel like there's an episode missing, one where we get a few more details about Garvey and the importance of Jennifer. It just seemed like she was set up to be more important than she has turned out to be, but maybe she plays an important part in the season finale.

 

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RedIsMyCoPilot wrote:

Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend Naomi here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is a slightly alive Carla.

I just find it too hard to believe that Red would not have been notified of Carla/Naomi's passing through his connections. Just doesn't seem possible, but then I think he did lose so much after Kaplan wrecked havoc on his empire, so maybe no one cared enough to tell him. I just feel like he would have had some eyes given he was setting Naomi and Frank up with safety.  And even more unbelievable is Frank locating Jennifer to deliver the news about her mother. If she really is gone, my gut is that it was triggered by Kaplan and the bones since Tom also died in 2017. 

Writers made sure Red didn't full take on the daddy role.  "Your Father".  Always keep us questioning ourselves.

Liz and Ressler getting to work together again was a nice nod back to season 1. Blacklister was creepy, but I liked the story and was funny call on The Village and how effective brainwashing can really be. That little girls mom will need more therapy than the girl! She was going to watch her daughter burn!!!! My heart was breaking! 

Poor sweet Aram!!!! He just wants his woman back!!! Don't you break his heart writers! I think Red will be ready and willing to help with finding Samar. I sometimes forget she was put on the task force by him. I always wished they would have done more insider stuff together and hopefully we get to see a glimpse of their relationship over the next 2 episodes while she's in extreme danger. 

Tuxie400 wrote:

CindyKC - Although I don't know if Naomi is really dead, I do know Red in not infallible. The date on Naomi's  tombstone was 2017. If it happened during the time Red was under siege from Kaplan, I could see how he would have missed it.

True. Red is not infallible. But I still say that's a very important part of Red's life/past for him to not have been made aware of somehow. Red found her before, so it's entirely possible she was "killed off" so he wouldn't find her again. Seems eerily similar to Kaplan "killing" Liz to fool Red. Do you recall an exact date on the tombstone or just 2017? I ask only because I've been reading all the discussions about time jumps and so forth, but assuming we are in real time right now (2018) and Liz was in her coma for 10 months, then Naomi would have died sometime AFTER Kaplan was busy destroying Red. He sure had much of his empire and wealth rebuilt over those 10 months.

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Little late to the party, but I must say this is probably one of my favourite episodes of this season yet. The writers finally seem to be willing to answer a lot of questions and wrap up many loose ends for the next (final?) season and the Cabal might make its return. One thing I noted about this episode is that the blacklister is somewhat similar to the Beekeeper from the Blacklist novels who also convinced his community that the people outside form a great danger. 

What I got from the conversation between Red and Jennifer is another confirmation that Red might not really be Red, mainly from referring to her father in the third person. I also think that Katarina was the one person that both the CIA and KGB were looking for, as Red does not confirm Jennifer's question whether it was him. It seems to me that this is not the last we've seen from Jennifer, although I'm curious to her role. 

I'm wondering what the kidnapping of Samar will mean for the plot as well. I like the way the next episode will continue on this episode's short arc. The highlight of this episode must have been Amir Arison's performance. Though Aram has always been a great character, he really stood out in this episode.

I just posted on the other thread. I don't think they can keep themselves straight....

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Okay, just for kicks here are the words on the Scrabble game.
Data, train, blurs, lipo, hex, gow, ba, hog, ham, or, oar, smash, stave, van, feti
gow has a blank at the end so could be gown.

Probably mean nothing, but ...

And the name on the prescription bottle is <something>eth Baker. I’m guessing Kenneth.

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