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3/14/2018 8:51 pm  #101


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

Brittany wrote:

Tuxie400 wrote:

Brittany wrote:


The guy had betrayed him to Garvey (HOW????? or WHEN????) so I guess he kind of had it coming?  He'll live, just need a colostomy bag, according to Dr. Red. 

There's no guaranteeing someone whose been gut shot will survive. But I guess Dr. Red has a lot of experience with shootings, so he knows. 
 

I know. I was joking about Red's medical skills.  Especially since he had to lay on the floor during his conversation with Garvey. 

 

Actually, he betrayed Red twice!  What a dummy!!


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3/14/2018 9:00 pm  #102


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

Eastcoast - How did the guy in the hat betray Red twice? I understood the first time. What was the second?

 

3/14/2018 9:11 pm  #103


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

I’m still giggling over Red and Dembe listening to rap in the dark, even after the guy left the room.

 

3/14/2018 9:13 pm  #104


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

2nd was notifying Garvey that Red was comin' . . . .

One of the best TBLs ever - immo

The elevation of the psychologist from minor supporting character to SUPER=BLACK-LIZTER was riveting and amazing - all in 1

Based on knowledge of Liz and her ability to profile and the way she obtained private information - you know the psychologist was recruiting - or at the very least, ramping up . . . .

The scenes with Red vs. Grubinelli & then Red vs. Garvey were special . . . . .

And again - we have NO REAL ANSWERS

BUT A WONDERFUL CONTINUATION - AND THE HINT OF SOUND 'N FURY, SIGNYFYING SOMETHING!*

(like Earl and his matches)

*CREDIT: Bazspeare

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Red: I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it
 

3/14/2018 9:14 pm  #105


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

This episode was SO good, I don't even care that we have no real answers.

 

3/14/2018 9:17 pm  #106


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

Red knew he had betrayed him the first time and to make it up he was supposed to tell him when one of the Nash guys were there but instead he told Garvey. Red made the right call not trusting him by having the guy go in first. Garvey was there instead. 


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3/14/2018 9:25 pm  #107


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Tuxie400 wrote:

This episode was SO good, I don't even care that we have no real answers.

Cardinal rule of providing answers on a network drama - u provide answer too soon you lose momentum and get axed from schedule. . . .

Torment all inquiries is the active descriptor!
 


Red: I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it
 

3/14/2018 9:26 pm  #108


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Thanks Eastcoast and BBB for explaining the second betrayal to me.

 

3/14/2018 9:27 pm  #109


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

I loved the reveal that Dr. Fulton is another monster chasing monsters. Seeing Liz embrace her true nature was chilling, and the idea that she’s building her own special skills team intrigues me. Dark Liz is full of twisted surprises. I can’t wait for the break to be over!

 

3/14/2018 9:31 pm  #110


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I love Dark Liz.    I've been waiting for this girl for a long time.  I can't wait to see her continue to accept herself and start creating her own crew.  I imagine this is how Red got started while he was still Naval Intelligence. 

 

3/14/2018 9:36 pm  #111


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So, I am wondering if she is going to have her new friend try to pull Reds files from back in the day? 


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3/14/2018 9:42 pm  #112


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

Brittany wrote:

I’m still giggling over Red and Dembe listening to rap in the dark, even after the guy left the room.

 
Hashim Tawfiq was tweeting 
tonight and it was hilarious!
 


"I could tell you how to win a marathon, but you're assuming it's a 26.2 mile race. It's not. It's a 6.2 mile race that begins at mile 20." Raymond Reddington
 

3/14/2018 9:43 pm  #113


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The quotation was from Shakspeare's Macbeth . . . hope this posts . . .

MACBETH
She should have died hereafter;
There would have been a time for such a word.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

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I'm too tired to make meaningful connections tonight . . . sorry!

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3/14/2018 9:53 pm  #114


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Nice catch Iowawatcher!  


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3/14/2018 10:07 pm  #115


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A final thought before I head to bed: have Garvey's intentions changed for the bones since before he killed Tom and now?  I know he could have been lying to Tom when he talked about the bones holding power over Red (they do to a degree, I suppose, but Red doesn't seem concerned), but now he's talking about wanting the whole truth.   I wonder if he has learned more stuff in the interim and that has changed his trajectory?  Could Garvey be related to the bones?   I keep feeling like it's being teased that Red should know him somehow.  Maybe it isn't.  Who knows. 

 

3/14/2018 10:10 pm  #116


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Brittany - It seemed to me Garvey expected Red to know who he was. And he's talking about wanting the whole truth. That seemed like he has a personal investment in those bones to me. He might not have been telling Tom the truth about his objective.

 

3/14/2018 10:15 pm  #117


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Could Garvey be a relative of Katarina’s?  A younger brother?  We never heard about her mother.  Perhaps she took a young Ian and fled to the states while KR stayed behind with Dom (perhaps she’s was being groomed for KGB or something)?  Ian wants to find his sister after she disappears and gets into law enforcement and watches CODIS for her DNA to show up?

 

3/14/2018 10:18 pm  #118


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Or what if he's RR's brother, and he wants to know what really happened to him and why Red is masquerading as his bro?  The possibilities are endless. We'll just have to wait and see.

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3/14/2018 10:27 pm  #119


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Well, it could be both.  The bones could give Garvey power over Red - what he will use to get the truth, whatever it is he is after.

I still think it would be a scream if Garvey turns out to be the real RR, but I doubt that's the case, for lots of reasons.  But it is fun to think about.

I agree, at this point, he could be anyone.  we really haven't been given any hints at all as to who he might be, other than the ring, if that is not a misdirect.  Still that's not a clue as to who he might be, rather, that he might be connected to Red (or the "real" Red) or fire night.

Hey a thought just occurred to me.  Suppose he thinks Red is the real Red (if Red isn't) and that leads to a huge twist.  Really though at this point I think the field is wide open as to who he might be.  But I agree, it sounds as though Red should know who he is (and why doesn't he know? heheh )

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3/14/2018 10:42 pm  #120


Re: Episode 5.16 - The Capricorn Killer - Discussion Page

Brittany wrote:
The guy had betrayed him to Garvey (HOW????? or WHEN????) so I guess he kind of had it coming?
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And now, the six merry members of the FBI Task Force  in their rendition of the Post Office Tango...

He had it coming
He had it coming
He only had himself to blame
If you'd have been there
If you'd have seen it I betcha you would have done the same!

 

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