OK they are all in it together!!!

Now that was smart!!! telling everyone when the show is back!  finally!!!!!

I think this episode points more to Red as KR.  not that I want it to, but what else could Sam, Dembe, Naomi and now Dom plead with Red, with almost identical words, to tell her.  She deserves to know.

Though - how could Garvey possibly know it, if Red is KR.  questions, questions....

Based on the badge, Garvey works for a sheriff's dept. I thought all along he was a dirty cop. It looks like he has a whole group of dirty cops he's involved with.

Anna's name was Anna Hopkins. To me, she's just another redhead in a show full of them.

As someone who was once in very much in a Redarina state of mind, this episode didn't take me there. 

The badge could be either sheriff or U.S. marshall. Both have stars on their badges. And the badges usually have words identifying them. Did anyone see words on Garvey's badge?

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Brittany wrote:

I think Red as KR would be too much of a stretch of reality due to various biological things and Red’s accounts of his life while in the run and what not but in the end it would make more sense than an imposter doing all he has done for Liz.

Brittany = oh, I agree.  I've never been totally sold on Rederina, including for the reasons you state.  I just think that the conversation between Red and Dom sounded very much like family.  It had that intensity to it, to me anyway.

It did make me wonder though if Dom is not really Dom and is a fake alias, is Red a fake alias too.  Regardless of Rederina.

At the same time, I think there were several things that pointed to the bones being KR LOL.  From all of the skeletons to the redhead being buried.

I've always thought Red's feelings for Liz were parental. Because of that, I wouldn't mind if he turned out to be Katarina. I would be more upset if he were some other kind of unrelated imposter. I would the happiest if he turned out to really be her bio dad.

Tuxie400 - if Red really is bio dad, there's another twist to it since that isn't the secret, right?  I think the group has talked about that twist before.  Something Red is maybe ashamed of, so much so he doesn't know how to begin to tell Liz.

I need to re-watch the last ten minutes. I thought I heard Dom telling Red that he denied that he was Oleander, that he didn't tell his granddaughter anything at all. However, Dom is Oleander, if I heard correctly, and he still thinks Red is a self-centered jerk. (That's what I got from his tone)

I agree that KR might still be alive, but Anna Hopkins was only a character on tonight's show, no connection to KR, in my opinion.

I, too, was very annoyed by the commercials and worried that the show had somehow been pre-empted by the Games. I'm glad everyone's antennas were working! That's got to be frustrating.

 

Tuxie400 wrote:

lara1 - What else did you think pointed to the bones being Katarina besides the redhead being buried?

I initially put this under the wrong comment

That was the crux of it, because it was referred to as a graveyard, and a ghost town at the beginning.  And KR was referred to as a ghost.  And then when they unearthed the skeletons - not bodies, skeletons.  The fact she looked so much like KR might now look, the right age, features, build.  The Chernobyl-like atmosphere.  The whole concept of buried secrets so far this season.  And what Dom said.  What happened to KR, is something that some people will go to great lengths to keep a secret, and Red has described the bones as his secret.

Though, why its a secret he can't say is the mystery if that's the case.  And what the heck would have been in CODIS to provide a match.  And whether the corpse was cut up like with the chainsaw (and why). And why would Garvey know and what is the power of that really over Red?  

In other words - more things pointing to it being KR, IMO, but even more questions that would argue against it. 

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