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Patter - I don't remember if anyone here has questioned whether Garvey could be Seaduke. I've seen the question raised on other sites. I know some of us have wondered whether Red could really be Seaduke.
Patter wrote:
ETA:
Has anyone posed this question yet?
Could Ian Garvey be Seaduke? Did Red actually kill Seaduke and that's why there was concern over the blood sample from 30 years ago? I'm trying to recall without watching S4 season finale. Trying to piece together the Ian's naval background/ring and Red's connection (if there even is one!).
Did Seaduke actually torture Red? I thought Cooper said that Seaduke had Spetsnatz take him and torture him and that he was rescued by a joint Naval-FBI task force. But I have wondered if Garvey could be Seaduke or working for Seaduke. I had the impression Seaduke had never been captured.
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Tuxie400 wrote:
After having a week to ponder and rewatch The Informant, I have to say this is one of the richest episodes of the season in terms of both acting and in central messages about good and evil. While I first complained about the convoluted and complicated Blacklister plot, I don't think the episode would have worked as well without it. I think it was needed for the tie-in with Prescott, the parallels to the first season, and perhaps the foreshadowing of what is to come for both Red and Liz.
Just as repeated scenes with cemeteries foreshadow death in this show, I think repeated scenes about confessions mean a big one is coming somewhere down the line in this season. In this episode, there were four confessions: Prescott's, the judge's, Ressler's and Cooper's. That makes me think either there will be a major Red confession/reveal about the bag of bones or Liz, after working so hard to erase her involvement in Navarro's death, will confess her crime. Or both could turn themselves in to the Task Force at the end of the season.
I can see Liz later in the season echoing what Ressler told Red: "I'm in the darkness, and doing the right thing is the only way I'll ever feel the light again."
Red's line to Ressler at the judge's apartment really grabbed me. I think it gets at the overall message of The Blacklist:
"Forgiveness doesn't mean accepting what you've done, Donald. It means understanding that the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of all of us."
The darkness and light thing made me think of the hideous Fish story.
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Tuxie400 wrote:
The other curious Red quote in this episode that intrigued me was this one:
"Sins should be buried like the dead. Not that they may be forgiven, but that we may remember them and find our way forward."
I wondered if this was alluding to the suitcase bones. Did that body represent a sin Red committed, rather than someone he killed? And that turn of phrase, find our way forward. That was what Red was looking for when he went to Dom's in The Artax Network.
Tuxie400 - I pondered that quote as well. It could mean several things. I wonder if its saying that the person that the bones represent won't be/can't be forgiven, but that one should let go and move on. Its another thing that brings me back to The Caretaker episode, with all of the discussions about things that "can't be forgiven". Though, I think it was also said, forgiveness can change the future, something like that.
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Patter - I pondered (but don't think I posted that) whether Garvey could be Seaduke, but then I discounted it, because Garvey comes across to me as a lower level operative. But its possible. He could also be working for Seaduke. But I do think the Seaduke thing may come back before the end of the season since they dropped that little nugget and its all tied up with the supposed Reddington blood and the DNA test.
Given the tie in with Cooper with both confessions in The Informant and in The Judge, I wonder if Cooper's confession will turn out to be knowingly faking the DNA the was used for the match between Liz and Reddington. Or something else having to do with the whole Reddington story. Of course, it may be none of those things.
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Hope tonite that Red delivers one of those amazing & lengthy soliloquys that his character Spader is so good at providing! Haven't had one for awhile - one of the best hi-lites of TBL immo
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Can't wait! I haven't been able to catch up on all the spoilers so I really am not prepared for tonight. I suspect we are going to get a lot of information.