Brittany wrote:

I'm just loving the new Liz. It's the Liz I've always wanted to see. 

I completely agree. I'm excited to see how she leads her life as she moves forward. I feel like we've moved to a whole new level of emotional depth and intrigue. It's more and more believable, whatever it is and wherever it will take us.
 

Brittany wrote:

I have wondered if Ressler will end up turning to Red to get out from under Prescott’s thumb and then Red in turn will ask for Ressler’s help in some regard to either finding who has the suitcase or keeping something hidden from Liz in regards to it. That would be interesting to see.

Also, there was mention somewhere that a character Red thought was no longer a threat comes back (I’ll look for the article). Any ideas? I don’t think it’s Scottie, as she just seems to have Agnes and not be a threat.

 

I was wondering if it could be Mr. Solomon or Kirk?  I was looking at the list of those who are still alive and those 2 stood out to me. 
​Wouldn't it be be crazy if Orleander was one of the Blacklisters? 




 

Eastcoast wrote:

By the way, did anyone else see that weird smile Liz had when she set that guy on fire? That was creepy!

Liz basically took four (4) seemingly competent & crafty killers and disposed of them like yesterday's garbage! That wasn't creepy (in the context of the show) it was TRULY SCARY.

Our darling LIzzy, the weakest player at the beginning of the show has now morphed into a weirdly-smirking KILLING MACHINE.
 

Eastcoast #83 - I rewatched Berlin last night, and realized the similarity of the scene of Liz shooting Tom and Tom whispering something inaudible into Liz's left ear, which ultimately results in her saving him, as it were, if only to get answers.  Red whispers into Kirk's left ear, which results in Kirk letting him go and Red being "saved".  though I doubt Red has Kirk captive on a boat somewhere....lol

Hi all, just a note that I updated the numbers/time list, the possible parallels list, and the Christmas list (LOL) with stuff through end Season 1.  

lara1 wrote:

Eastcoast wrote:

By the way, did anyone else see that weird smile Liz had when she set that guy on fire? That was creepy!

Eastcoast - Liz seems to be evolving into a kind of arsonist.  Makes me think if she really did set the fire way back when.  Every time I think of something that makes me wonder about that, I dismiss it.  But the fire imagery around Liz was everywhere in Ruin.  Not to mention what happens in 1.10.  Then again, fire imagery is everywhere in the series.....

Well she burned a couple of mopes but she also poisoned 2 (one of them to death). She had them profiled from the get-go but I'm sure she was enraged when they managed to get the upper hand on the local journeyman and Liz's hellhound. She also fought one of the mopes in physical combat and came out ahead - even if she used the starting pistol and a pitcher full of gas to complete the incineration.
Just one question I still have - what happened to her firearm, the one she took back from the witness? Was the ammo extracted by the mope brigade? That's my theory, fwiw!

I just thought of another Kaplan parallel. When Liz gives her gun to the wounded Witsec guy and leaves, it's similar to the Leonard Caul episode when Kate gives her gun to a post-operative Red and leaves.

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RedIsMyCoPilot wrote:

When I first saw the promo for and heard about the premise of this episode, I thought Liz would be going the Beatrix Kiddo route. After two viewings, I saw parallels to Julie Kohler in Francois Truffaut's THE BRIDE WORE BLACK and David Sumner in Sam Peckipah's STRAW DOGS.

In either case, I really liked this episode - surprising as I usually consider Liz a weak link. Truthfully, besides Red, it's his 'gang' that make the show for me.

Thanks for the movie suggestions, RedIsMyCoPilot :-)  Just read overviews of them - definitely are parallels with Blacklist.

They also reminded me of Vanessa Cruz from season two.

When i heard them say her name was Grace Talbot the first thing i thought of was Talbot County Md. So i looked that name up because the name came from the Talbot family.  Lady Grace Talbot was born in the 1500's and was wed as a small child. There is a lot of different information that debates that age from 5 to 8 years old. Its an interesting story.

Gah!  I'm so far behind.  I'll have to play catch up on everyone's fantastic comments over the weekend.  :D

I just wanted to do a quick swing by, and state that this episode was not only top-notch, but a perfect book ending of sorts.  What I mean is, both Elizabeth and Red got what they needed, by being on the same page:  Liz needed to know she could make it on her own, and Red needed to know he could let her go--and they both got there, by trusting each other.  The prospects of what this could mean causes me to smile lots! 

I mean jeez-o-peetz!  It's about time Liz took into account her full potential, and Red come to terms with maybe--just maybe--his kiddo might have a shot at being able to handle whatever life throws at her.  ::shakes head:: Character growth and good writing kill me in the best way possible--and this was holy crap fantastic!  ^-^

And now I must scurry for tonight's grand adventure.  Have fun, everyone!  :D