Brittany - I also think it will be Scottie Hargrave who comes back. She may blame Red for Tom's death.

OK, so I went through our list of blacklisters (thanks eastcoast!), and of those that are not dead, and were problematic for Red, I think we have listed them - Scottie and Kirk.  

But how about Carla or - the long lost Jennifer.  though I guess she was never on the show - or was she?  heheh.

Brittany - yes, I agree Scottie makes sense.  Its a bit frustrating, because I read something not that long ago by someone senior associated with the show (can't remember who) who said that Famke would not be back. And here she is maybe in 5.09.  although from her description of it, it seemed like a passing role - Thought maybe a flashback or something.  Maybe not.  But it makes me question what they also said about Kirk.  and Kirk, I feel knows Red's deepest secret now and Red did something that would make him (and it) stay hidden.  Then again why on earth would cause Kirk to resurface?  Nothing that I can think of right now!

I hope they bring Scottie back long enough to tie up a few loose ends, whether it's "real" or a flashback. I don't care which one. I just want some answers.

It also seems like Gena should put in a brief appearance, too.

I think I've discussed this before, but I can't remember.  Sorry if it is a repeat. 

When Fowler mentioned Red's family, I initially believed wife/child.  But after we saw Carla and heard about Jennifer being in the wind after years in WITSEC, I started to wonder if the family could have been referring to parents/siblings.  We have rarely heard any reference to Red's parents (just about his mother being dead, a couple of sayings from his father and that his father like Cadillacs and had a Wagoneer).  No mention of siblings. I've often wondered if there was something that happened with his family that led him to military intelligence when he wanted to captain a ship.  Perhaps his father was also military or CIA?  We see lots of parallels between the generations in this series and 'sins of the father' type references, so I could see something involving deeper family connection being a possibility.

I believe it was mentioned in interviews over the summer that we would hear more about Red's time in Russia.  I'm hoping we see more of that this season.   Lotte Verbeek has been in Europe filming a movie so she likely isn't appearing in any of the first few episodes back after fall finale, but I'm hoping she comes back at some point, even if just for flashbacks.  She and Spader were great together on screen. 

Tuxie400 wrote:

Brittany - In the original pilot script Raymond Reddington was in the Army instead of the Navy and his father was described as having been an Army officer. Whether there's a paternal military link still, who knows?

I tried to find the article that said we'd find out more about Red's time in Russia, and the only source I could find is one that is questionable and usually lifts quotes from legitimate interviews and then extrapolates. While I would very much like to learn more about Red's work with Russian spies, I don't know if we will get any of that this year. 

 

That's interesting about the initial plot, Tuxie.  I hadn't heard that before.  

I feel like it was EW articles or something similar I saw that said they were possibly going to reveal more about Red's time in Russia this season.  I also remember a reference to when he was kidnapped and tortured in the 80s by Seaduke and Bokenkamp saying it wasn't supposed to be a big clue, just to flesh out the background story.   I'd like to see a little something. Maybe even just one Requiem-type episode of him flashing back to KR and the lead up to the fire or their break up. 

Thanks Tuxie.  I looked up what you mentioned.  I don’t remember the Christian Post article specifically but I did find the EW interview link, which I do remember reading.  But that other articles headline may have shown up at one point and I’ve combined them in my memory.

lara1 wrote:

but I’ve kind of made a little vow to myself not to pay too much attention anymore to what they are saying in interviews.

I was thinking along the same lines, plus Actor X might not have been available when the interview was done, but circumstances may have changed since then. 

In any case, I'll have a lot more faith in the show runners if they can present a less convoluted mythology. I accept that it's a work in progress and will refrain from yelling, "Liar!" at my computer screen as I have been.

Not yelling is better for my blood pressure, too! LOL!

Honey West wrote:

Anybody watching History channel's The Hunt for the Zodiac Killer? I only caught a few minutes of it last night but it’s supposed to have a new episode Tuesday.

Sounds interesting! I'll have to see if I can get it On Demand.

Honey West - I think the Zodiac discussion started here, and it was under last Spring's hiatus thread. Then we moved a lot of the discussion to thrushes.

I wasn't able to find the first part of the show on Comcast On Demand. I would really like to watch that part since it was about a new suspect.. I wasn't able to watch last night's episode because I had other things going on. I'm thinking maybe it takes a week before it shows up On Demand, or maybe I can watch it online on the History Channel website.

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