Ian Garvey - Have we ever known less about a Blacklister? No one even said his name in this episode. What do we know about him?

1. The CODIS search was what led him to the bones. So is he law enforcement?
2. He views the bones as leverage with Red, and sees them as a means to power.
3. Killing people to clean up lose ends is not a problem for him.
4. The license plates on his car and those of his goons were New York plates.
5. He sniffs dolls.
6. He seems oblivious to the Liz/Red connection.
7. He likes to have access to a wood chipper. I get the feeling he's had experience getting rid of bodies before.

Last edited by Tuxie400 (11/19/2017 11:40 am)

Tuxie400 wrote:

Ian Garvey - Have we ever known less about a Blacklister? No one even said his name in this episode. What do we know about him?

1. The CODIS search was what led him to the bones. So is he law enforcement?
2. He views the bones as leverage with Red, and sees them as a means to power.
3. Killing people to clean up lose ends is not a problem for him.
4. The license plates on his car and those of his goons were New York plates.
5. He sniffs dolls.
6. He seems oblivious to the Liz/Red connection.
7. He views the bones as leverage with Red, and sees them as a means to power.
8. He likes to have access to a wood chipper. I get the feeling he's had experience getting rid of bodies before.

I truly believe the insertion of a blank-slate big bad is a purposeful play. It allows the writers and screen-play creators a fresh canvas, unburdened by any blacklist mythology to create new and different programming. Ian Garvey serves than purpose. The fact he's played by the diabolical looking Jonny Coyne is a wonderful coincidence!

Big Badd Bazzer wrote:

Here's a wild prediction re: Ian Garvey

He's Mr. Kaplan's brother!

Could be. A brother (to Kate, or KR or anyone really) is never mentioned but I guess it isn't totally out of the ball park, but....even wilder prediction: Ian Garvey is Katarina Rostova!  LOL!  I'll see myself out. 

BBB - I'm sure you're right about the blank canvas bad guy. It will be interesting to see how the writers flesh him out.

Agree with Tuxie400 and Brittany's points about Garvey. He is sort of a mystery. I wonder if part of that is to keep us from guessing too much about him and whatever relationship he might have with Red, until they get to that in the story.

All he says to Liz when she comes into the apartment is "You must be the wife." Yet he acknowledges earlier that the bag-o-bones (to use Jodi Walker's term for them) would give him control over Red's power. So is this something completely and totally different than having power over Red himself? To get power over Red all he needs to do is grab Liz. So he either has no clue as to who she is to Red, or else he doesn’t care because it’s Red's power that he’s interested in. Yet we have seen Red's empire decimated by Mr. Kaplan. My question is this. Is Red's power (and influence) something separate from his empire of power and money? Either that or Garvey only knows that the bones represent some kind of major power over Red, and he doesn’t know exactly what that is. Maybe he is just an enforcer who sees this as an opportunity to rise to power himself, at others' expense. Only, of course, he is stirring up a major stew of things he shouldn’t be stirring.

I guess we will find out next year.

I rewatched the episode tonight. On first watch I had noticed the hand clasps at the hospital of Red and Dembe and Samar and Aram. But I missed that heart wrenching bloody hand clasp of Liz and Tom in the apartment melee. Somehow that made it even more bittersweet.

Hi all, I still have not been able to re-watch or even listen to the Exposed podcast!  RL super crazy right now, but its fun to dip into this now and again to see where you all have taken this.

Tuxie400 wrote:

I think the dark Disturbed version of "The Sound of Silence" was definitely supposed to be Red's anthem. It harkens back to what Tom told Liz in Season 2's Quon Zhang episode:

Liz: If Reddington wanted me to know the truth, he would have told me by now. He wants to keep me from knowing, and he will bully anyone who might help me into silence.
Tom: Well, that’s his tell – The silence. Berlin had me keep tabs on him, or try to. The mere mention of his name was like I’d asked for their first born. He thinks the fear protects him, but the fear he instills – Silence can’t hide it. You can see it in their eyes. Whenever I did, I knew Reddington had been there.

Tuxie400 - I like this.  I shall have to look at the lyrics again.  And - another mention of "eyes".

Edited to ADD:  all the times the FBI task force members say, "You got eyes?"  or "I got eyes."  yeah its probably just normal parlance, but - still its interesting.  to me anyway 

Last edited by lara1 (11/21/2017 2:10 pm)

Tuxie400 - well spotted!  

Hmm, that's interesting about the doll and the red plastic dog....need to watch that episode again.

And another example of a Blacklister that starts with a "K".  I wonder if Blacklisters that start with a K point to something further with the mythology......

Tuxie400 - I can't recall how the congregants were killed.  I remember that they were locked in and the doors bolted etc.  was it some kind of poisonous gas?  I know it wasn't a fire because the building was not damaged.  (nor Red's Lincoln )