Well I finally caught up with all of these great comments!

​Tuxie400 #69 - re the head shaving scene, maybe that was a more obscure pointer to Berlin.  Tom was trying to shake off the whole Berlin thing, wasn't he?  And he was off to Germany.  Then we had the more obvious pointers to Berlin, by name, in this episode.  Or maybe its just part of the parallel TBL universe we seem to be seeing right now!  But I agree, it was a logical conclusion to get to - that Pete was an operative.  But we then found out he was a con.

Brittany - yes there are many complicated theories out there and just plain simple theories!  LOL.  I sometimes think in the end, the explanation is going to be very simple, but a shocker.  So the complex theories as such won't necessarily be true, but diversions from the simple truth (TBL as a magic trick).  So that we are more shocked at the ending than we otherwise would have been.  But even though it may be shocking, doesn't mean it can't be simple.

I also sometimes think that the story is being told on "two levels" , kind of like the basic version and the more complex and dark "adult" version, that can only be hinted at.  

I really enjoy reading your comments because they are often so solid and full of common sense!  and often different to mine - and I like to hear those ideas, it makes me step out of my own "mind box" and reconsider what I have seen.  So thanks for all of the time you put into sharing your thoughts here with us!  

Hi guys,

I hope that whatever secret is going on is a major shocker even if it is simple and straightforward. I still can't fathom what secret is such a danger to Liz that Red has kept it this long......and put her in so much danger already! I always say "couldn't Red have instructed Sam to steer young Lizzie toward a simpler career?!? Like a kindergarten teacher in Nebraska? A cupcake shop owner?! Red could've put up the investment dollars for the bakery!" Haha but then I guess we wouldn't have this show. (Hmm, a thought just popped up. That it might be no coincidence that Liz is working in Harold Cooper's unit. I believe Red might have met with Harold prior to the show's beginning asking him to keep Liz close.)

I really love this show and cannot wait to finally find out its big secrets. I hope that after all this, we are thoroughly shocked. Us fans have certainly invested enough brain power into it!

Brittany, I agree that since reading forums and listening to the podcast I might have too many ideas floating around my head! The show is so engaging that it seems impossible to me to not seek out what others have to say. I really enjoy keeping up with our little group and hearing everyone's input from all different angles.

lara1 - I agree with this thought of yours.

"I also sometimes think that the story is being told on "two levels" , kind of like the basic version and the more complex and dark "adult" version, that can only be hinted at. " 

Brittany - I think Aaron is way off base with his idea that Ressler killed Nik. And I'm not even sure Ressler's situation will come up in the finala. But it may. While Ressler is willing to drive a car with a body somplace, I just can't believe Ressler would kill someone to keep is secret quiet.

I do hope the Bones somehow prove Katarina is alive, or draws her out of the shadows. Maybe she is Oleander.

 

That would be super interesting, Tuxie.  I’d love it. 

And I agree that I don’t think Ressler killed Nik.  But I am eager to see Ressler’s story line develop. 

Katarina as Oleander would be great.  Beautiful, but deadly.

Garvey suddenly popped out of the script, so to speak. He could be very important - or just another pseudo-mope villain who goes down too easy when Red gets GPS on him.

He could also be Mossad - which would no doubt bring Samar back into the fray - in a big way!

One thing is sure - Tom is as good a silver-tongued devil as there ever was. As good as Red? Probably!

This week's side-dish The Kilgallens failed to live up to their billing. Pops was easily discarded by #1 boy, and #1 boy was easily given up by Mama K. In the end Mama K (who's still alive) was the most interesting person from the latest serving of side-dish mopes.

Well we have several callbacks and parallels to Season 1 with this episode.

1. Human trafficking takes us back to The Freelancer and Floriana Campo with her secret sex trafficking operation.
2. Humans in a refrigerated box and running out of air is a reminder of The Courier and Seth who was buried underground in a refrigerator.
3. Seeing Tom tied up an threatened goes back to the pilot.
4. Red's talking about Dembe being his light in the darkness is reminiscent of all the times Red compared Liz to a light.
5. Red's desperation to save Dembe takes us back emotionally to Anslo Garrick when he's ready to put a bullet in Dembe's head.
6. While Dembe's bunny makes a little girl smile, the scorched bunny Liz finds in a box from Sam's makes her cry and have a fire flashback in Anslo Garrick.


Is Dembe's care and protection of the little girl who is separated from her parents a parallel for what happened with Red and Liz? Only time will tell.

Colin Kilgannon said: "When I hire a Snakehead, I expect him to know how to ship our clients without killing them" before shooting Zhang.

A snakehead is a Chinese term for one who smuggles people. 
 

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I wonder if the fingers thing is their way of showing us that Ian Garvey is the one who tried to get Caul? I get the feeling he is part of the bigger conspiracy that Fitch, Caul, Red and the Cabal are part of.

Didn't they say we would be getting more of Red's Russian connections this season?