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    10/25/2017 7:31 pm  #41

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    Colleen wrote:

    Card tattoos - and a spade tattoo - wonder if Spader cracked a smile at that line.

    yes that was a clever choice!  LOL. 

     

    10/25/2017 7:36 pm  #42

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    Critter CABIN.    LOL.  they just keep coming.....

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    10/25/2017 7:37 pm  #43

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    uh oh.  this is going to get very intense

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    10/25/2017 7:37 pm  #44

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    Red has the phones and knows Nik was involved with the suitcase!  I have a feeling he surely finds out about Tom this episode.  He has Nik's phones so he should find Tom's number. 

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    10/25/2017 7:41 pm  #45

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    Hersh (McGyver) isn't who he said he was. Shocking! No real side dish on tonite's episode - Porky the bulldog-owner and evidence provider didn't do much. Heart Lady might be key!

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    10/25/2017 7:41 pm  #46

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    All more fodder for the imposter theory.

     

    10/25/2017 7:42 pm  #47

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    Tuxie400 wrote:

    All more fodder for the imposter theory.

    Ha ha Tuxie, I was thinking the same.  Doesn't take much to encourage me with that!  haha

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    10/25/2017 7:43 pm  #48

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    Red is coaching Liz like in the pilot.  Wow I wish I could figure out what it all means.  its like a mirror image of the pilot in so many ways.....

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    10/25/2017 7:48 pm  #49

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    fake CIA posing as CIA posing as fake CIA......he took the fall for a bad plot he discovered....sounds like parallel to Red's story maybe.

    And he used Red's words to Ressler.....when Red was going to "shoot" Kirk......hmmmm

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    10/25/2017 7:49 pm  #50

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    Hmmm a burned intelligence officer that has to go out on his own...could be hinting to Red's own past of being burned by Naval Intelligence and that being the reason he had to escape into the criminal world.  Not because he wanted to, but because they forced him (closest I can get to believing in an imposter theory-lol). 
     

     

    10/25/2017 7:49 pm  #51

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    Hershie (Osterman/Ruther) was one of the good guys. Liz soiled his operation. Cox is the big bad this week. Who knew?

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    10/25/2017 7:51 pm  #52

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    Brittany wrote:

    Hmmm a burned intelligence officer that has to go out on his own...could be hinting to Red's own past of being burned by Naval Intelligence and that being the reason he had to escape into the criminal world.  Not because he wanted to, but because they forced him (closest I can get to believing in an imposter theory-lol). 
     

     I am starting to think that (our) Red's real story is being told through all of these episodes, especially all of the parallels to Season 1.  We are being shown the reverse side of the coin, so to speak.  Not that its easy to figure out!  But I'm starting to think that is what is going on.  At least in part.

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    10/25/2017 7:51 pm  #53

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    lara1 wrote:

    fake CIA posing as CIA posing as fake CIA......he took the fall for a bad plot he discovered....sounds like parallel to Red's story maybe.

    And he used Red's words to Ressler.....when Red was going to "shoot" Kirk......hmmmm

    It's all very complicated - maybe like what Red and Katarina were involved in way back when.

    I noticed Osterman was using Red's words to Ressler.  And did you notice Red used Solomon's words from Mr. Solomon Part I with "Who might you be?"
     

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    10/25/2017 7:54 pm  #54

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    AW, Red...

     

    10/25/2017 7:56 pm  #55

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    Did Red tell Liz anything.  will she put 2 and 2 together.

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    10/25/2017 7:57 pm  #56

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    Tuxie400 #53 - yeah the parallels ran riot in this episode.  definite re-watch and script analysis!!

    And - Liz seemed frosty to Tom at the end.  What if anything does she know?

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    10/25/2017 7:57 pm  #57

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    Hmm, Liz's reaction was interesting.  Did Red say something to her?

    Aram becoming a field agent?! Yes!  

     

    10/25/2017 7:58 pm  #58

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    OMG the Tom mirror parallel and the Berlin hand parallel!!!  did I just see that right??

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    10/25/2017 7:59 pm  #59

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    YES!  Red knows Tom's involved.  It's gonna get good...

     

    10/25/2017 8:00 pm  #60

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    lara1 wrote:

    OMG the Tom mirror parallel and the Berlin hand parallel!!!  did I just see that right??

    YES!  I noticed that too...what was with his fingers?
     

     

     

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