BBB #59 - that is a good point.

Further thought on Elise - so she face chats with Aram - was that his work computer or a different one?
then she calls Samar.  Is Elise trying to get access to systems in the post office?  Im not sure its possible just doing what she has done thus far, but is it the first step?

i don't think the "asset" of Kirk's can be in the post office because I don't think they knew enough about what Red was planning.  But I feel like Samar's reason for transferring (can't trust anyone) might be just a plot device to set up something bigger re a betrayal......

Tuxie400 wrote:

IowaWatcher - What I don't get is why the Blacklister had to kill these inventors. He could have gotten all the info and released it to the world anyway. Those poor rubes all trusted him. And having been an inventor himself, why would he want to hurt other inventors? That's what most confuses me.

That I don't know. Adds to the drama, maybe? If he didn't kill them, maybe he couldn't have held onto the info until he had a fair amount of it?

It's another plot hole.

Tuxie400 wrote:

Maybe I was just tired, but not much in this ep made sense to me. I never understood what the blacklister was doing. And was Hitchins just doing Reddington's bidding all along? Which invention did he want?

The only progress made this episode was with Elise and Samar. Curiouser and curiouser about Elise.

I was very disappointed there were no Kaplan scenes and no illuimination on the DNA report. To me, this was the biggest snoozer of the season. My favorite episode so far was the premiere.

Tuxie400 - I know what you mean about the Kaplan scenes.  But I felt in a way they are setting something up with Dembe's conversation with Red.  One of Red's possibly unanticipated consequences for shooting Kaplan was his failure to recognize the full impact on Dembe.  He seemed a bit pained to see that Dembe is upset over it.  Also I don't think much has changed with Kaplan since we last saw her so next time I think we will see her up and talking, maybe.

I think they are also setting up something with Elise and possibly the Post Office.  My theory is that Elise is after intel in the PO so she is working through Aram and Samar.  I also think that Samar's reason for transfer - which seems a bit weak - annoyance at Liz's betrayal and questions of trust - is setting up something to actually happen in the Post Office, maybe a real betrayal.  Just my unquiet mind, perhaps but those are my thoughts.  Lots of threads being sewn in and pulled tonight.

Its the......
I posted on the spoiler page!!!!!

I have 2 people in mind!

BBB #50 I pick none of the above. My prime suspect is Elise. She's come out of nowhere, pretends to be a ditz, is face timing Aram at work - a huge security no no - and I don't think she was sent by Red, after his remark to Cooper about fixing Aram up with someone. Red would have known if Aram had a girlfriend already, he knows almost everything, but especially about the Post Office people, especially after Anslo Garrick. So my money's on Elise being Kirk's spy.

Overall, an interesting episode. A blacklister that made sense and was a good story all on his own without needing to be woven into the larger story. Good tension between Red and Liz. The Post Office getting to actually do something. The face off between Ressler and Hitchen over Reven Wright was great. Tom got to do something sneaky without firing a shot this week. Dembe praying in the church about not doing something to help Kate. Sent a strong message to Red that he didn't approve. But as Red has said, Dembe is a good man, but Red is not. Red remembering that Liz likes to be thanked for saving his life, and doing it without her having to lecture him again. Both Dembe and Brimley bringing up Kate. Red is eventually going to have to answer to Liz about her. The DNA report. So if this report is in a file from Russia about Kirk, and that was a good-sized file, how old is it? Is it specifically to prove Masha's paternity? Liz says it proves Kirk is her father. Does it spell it out or is she jumping to conclusions again? Red does his best not to react, but after she leaves, there is that little eye twitch that she got to him. Red stating that he has never lied to Liz. How are they going to resolve this? There'd better be a big payoff about that one of these days! The question of why Kirk was in Russia if the Kremlin hates him. Well, suppose Kirk is the Russian version of Reddington? On their most wanted list, living as a criminal to them. If Red can do it, why can't Kirk? Red and Kirk as the two sides of the same coin thing again. Red calling Liz the Mama Grizzly.  (grin)

Loved seeing the "Return of the Gnome"...I wonder if the gnome will become a running joke in the series?

I definitely enjoyed this episode. Tonight's blacklister provided a good stand alone story that ultimately will tie back into the serialized story; because once again the "doing in" of a blacklister not only helps the greater good, but ultimately moves Red's plans along, as well. Ulterior motives abound!

Did anyone else get the feeling that Red had a pang of potential betrayal when Dembe replied to his comment, "You did nothing," by responding, "Exactly"? Red looked a little taken aback by his reply. First his most trusted associate (Mr. Kaplan) betrayed his trust, and now his next most trusted associate is sounding conflicted.

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Usually I'm yelling at the screen because I'm so excited about the big reveal and anticipation for next week. This week I was yelling at the screen because I am finding myself so bored with the "Who's your daddy" story line. I am no longer being "shocked" by it anymore. Poor baby Agnes is going to think Kirk is her dad!  I wonder how many days/weeks have past since Liz and Agnes were split up. Does Agnes have a wet nurse? JK!!!! Red says so much by saying nothing and when he stayed silent while Liz approached him I just knew the previews for next week would play out the way they did. Red saying something like, "Just because your mom was with a man doesn't make him your father." Or at least I think that's what I heard. I was disappointed. If Red is not her bio dad, then I want there to be a 3rd father to be revealed and the show stick with it. Is that too much to ask for? Even though I was left a little annoyed, the episode did provide some good scenes that may work themselves into the future. Dembe is crushed . No sign of Mr. Kaplan, but maybe she'll make it to the upcoming nuptials. Aram is working it! Samar is suspicious and maybe a little jelly of Elise. Elise is probably someone's spy. Ressler eyeing that gnome cracked me up!  Ressler, Cooper, and Hitchens was an intense scene. And the Cabal still exists! 

So much food for thought from everyone - and welcome to new friends   I felt like I missed the big picture when the episode ended last night, so reading the posts here was a huge help.

Patter that's a good point about baby Agnes being with Kirk so much she may think he's her dad.    Liz was only with Agnes immediately after birth, when Tom arrived in Cuba, and when Liz was at the Summer Palace.  Someone please just hold that baby and play peek-a-book with her. 

Despite Kirk doing terrible things - kidnapping a baby is pretty high up on that list - he didn't want to risk harming her to save his own life.  The promo for next week looks like a desperate, cornered Kirk clutching Agnes almost protectively.  Is there a chance that in his mind, Kirk really believes he's doing the right thing?

Totally missed the Gnome   The mamma grizzly reference was priceless!