lara1 wrote:

Another alternate reality "possible" - no sister visible in the opening scene in Requiem with Kaplan at her mother's wake.  Still think its odd unless the sister was much younger (infant for example).

I noticed that but I felt like the focus was not on the sister.  They may have figured we knew she had one because Red mentioned her in the protection program.
 

And he looks like a blonde.

It could be, but I think the Director had to dispose of him?  I am trying to think of anyone blonde Red might have knocked off that worked for the Gov. since he is right next to Diane Fowler.

eastcoast - brilliant, thank you!  and to Honey West for mentioning.  I did not see that at all!

OK here's a wild guess - the original Reddington.  (sorry I could not resist that, but it looks to me like a dark three piece suit). 

It could also be a priest ?  probably just the light but is that a white collar above dark attire?  Red did kill a cardinal,  or a bishop, didn't he?  I can't recall who that was though, it was at the end of The Vehm - I don't recall what exactly he was wearing or whether he had light or dark hair.  

But a bishop or cardinal would't fall into the category of criminals and others that the Taskforce tried to turn.  So Im' thinking, whoever he was,  he, like Fowler, was not a "criminal" - and by that I mean, no one knew he was a criminal, so different from all of the other corpses.

the mind boggles!

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Lara1, as I recall, it was a tattoo of a bow compass. Used for drawing circles by architects and other folk who do technical drawings. I have one around here somewhere from an engineering drawing class I took in college.
I don't know if his tattoo had anything to do with a secret society or not, but the Freemasons use building tools and implements in their symbolism.

lara1 wrote:

I just re-watched The Architect and The Apothecary again.  Not really this episode, but since this is the active thread, I'll just add two quick things:

- did anyone notice the tattoo on the architect's neck, behind his ear? There was a very quick close up of it while he was fixing his pocket watch.  It kind of looks like two swords attached to a ring, or could be two elongated crosses.  Kind of an unusual symbol.  I haven't been able to find it or what it means.

- there was a huge clue as to that it was Kaplan behind Red's troubles that I completely missed on the prior viewings of The Architect - when the white supremacist is freed from prison, he runs into a blue and white van for a cleaning company that then drives him away.  LOL.

My search for the tattoo led me to stumble upon some interesting masonic symbols we may have seen in the series.  I will post that separately under Discussion.

 

I did see it and then forgot about it until you just mentioned it.

I'm thinking of the body. If it belongs to a blacklister, it should be one that was killed by Red without anyone of the task force present (otherwise it wouldn't have to be cleaned by Kaplan). 

So if the body belongs to a blacklister, I think it could only belong to Geoff Perl or Alistair Pitt, though it might be more probable that it's just a random guy and we're all guessing about it 

Also, couldn't it be Newton Philips/Grey? I believe his body was left behind, because Grey asks Red (both colours lol) to make it seem like an accident, though there is a possibility that Kaplan did clean it.

Another guess is that the body belongs to one of the two men who spied on Lizzy, which she killed in the Anslo Garrick (conclusion) episode when Mr. Kaplan first appeared, or to one of Lord Baltimore's team. 

Honey West #129 - thanks for htat thought!  I thought the tattoo could be a compass as well, except for the cross detail on each "arm" of what would be a compass and that it was very narrow.  Still it very well could be - and the compass is a big Freemason symbol.

Eastcoast #130 - thanks!  I couldn't remember how the priest met his end.  It would not be him, then.  Yes it does look like another body on the other side of Diane.  Maybe this is just a close up of a bunch of them as they were working to identify them, then Diane was singled out once identified.

Re the tattoos generally, that's another theme that runs through the series, we have some kind of tattoo in many if not most episodes.  In the Architect, we had the architect and the white supremacist.  Remember Tom's tattoos? Then in one episode, Red visited a tattoo parlor and spoke with a guy whose body was tattoos from head to toe.  

 Its interesting that they mentioned a tattoo in the pilot.  I don't think they've ever shown Red's tattoo though.  would it be a large clue if they did?    (I know that James Spader does have a tattoo in "real life"; I'm just wondering what, if anything, the tattoo theme means in the series.  could just be that they look very mean and very cool!). LOL.  Maybe its just another variation of a scar (ie more or less permanent "identifying" mark)

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I'm wondering if the other body could be Newton Philips, as has been suggested. Maybe he is being singled out as the first one since Red surrendered that the Task Force is now responsible for? We have wondered if he had some ties to Reds naval intelligence days, since he seemed to have a rather military demeanor and always addressed Red as "sir" more like he was a commanding officer than a boss.

Getting back to the alternate reality idea - I listed out some stuff in #114 and some other stuff (Kaplan's comments to Liz and to Marvin) - I re-watched Requiem tonight (on a large screen!)

Two other things that others have picked up on, for which there is either no explanation or doesn't make sense:

- Kate is wearing a different ring than previously (a thinner silver band and an additional very thin gold band)
-Kate was shot on the side of her face and cheek.  Why is there a large wound at the back of her head?