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I was pleased we got to the origin of Sam & Nikos!
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BBB - or as mountain man would say, Kate is "relentless". yes, she certainly is with those bodies!
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So Sam did have a criminal record after all. We don't know how he knows Red though, which is good.
So someone on the "inside" did sanitize that record so it never showed up on Liz's background checks, as Ressler said in the pilot.
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Thought i heard him say, "how does it feel to be home?" ??? Possibly just on American soil?
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lara1 wrote:
OK so what happened to Red putting Liz in Kate's arms as a baby?
Serious continuity problem here.
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I think the flashbacks were woven into the overall episode very well.
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Tatiana wrote:
lara1 wrote:
OK so what happened to Red putting Liz in Kate's arms as a baby?
Serious continuity problem here.
Yes, and in Mato, when kate mentioned Annie and what happened to her, when Red said, you know I don't know, that I was away, it made it sound like they already were working together or something. It now sounds like all he meant was that was the period of time during which he was off the radar??
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So Kate is Russian, then? Sorry, it's been a really long week. I'm still trying to figure out how she ended up in KR's house, unless Red sent her, and I get the feeling that she only saw him for the first time when KR was with him in the car.
Yeah, they made Mr. Kaplan out to be really creepy, creepier than I'd realized.
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What a great episode, and even with minimal Spader! I always suspected Kate's allegiance was more toward Liz than Red. Seeing all those bodies laid out in the ice rink was chilling indeed! I think the rest of the series will be dismatling Red's empire and prosecuitng him for his many crimes.
I was surprised at how little Katarina cared for Raymond. And even she didn't know who Masha's father was. Reddington may think she's his child. I wonder if he had a paternity test done at some point.
What I want to know is how both Raymond and Katarina knew Sam the grifter.
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Great episodes and great casting. The bodies and the hotel room remind me of the Stewmaker.
Open questions for me are, why is Liz/Masha so important? No context given, in spite of all the reveals.
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I think kate has really gone over the edge. How is what she is now doing going to protect Liz, or be good for her? Digging up all those bodies and installing them on an ice rink, killing all of those people, blowing up the cabin, etc. It sounds to me like she has lost it esp as what she is doing now may harm Liz big time. And if Red really is Liz's father (still an open question, IMO) then she's also taking away her father.
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I think it was a great episode, very smooth and well executed flashbacks, great acting.
We still don't know why Liz is "special", nor really Red's background, what happened on fire night etc., which is good, IMO. Just confirming the Kate background which is important for the current story arc and bits and pieces of fire night
Yes I too want to know how someone like Red and like Katerina knew Sam. And in such a way that Masha would never possibly be traced to him?
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I don't think Liz/Masha is important - other than to Red, who thought she was his daughter, and Kate, who had voiwed to keep her safe. I don't think there's any big twist here. All Reddington's criminal activity was to protect his child.
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lara1 wrote:
BBB - or as mountain man would say, Kate is "relentless". yes, she certainly is with those bodies!
As mountain man might say "Kate is as relentless as the sugar in a coke bottle!"
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I think both episodes worked well, plus the story arc is much more interesting. I can overlook some of the potential continuity problems.
As for losing it, Kate has been shot in the head for a second time. That's got to stink. I don't know how all of those dead bodies are going to help Liz, either, but there are several interesting ways the writers can now take the story.
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Today's interview with Jon Bokenkamp and EW Jon tells us we will know paternity by the end of this season.
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IowaWatcher wrote:
I think both episodes worked well, plus the story arc is much more interesting. I can overlook some of the potential continuity problems.
As for losing it, Kate has been shot in the head for a second time. That's got to stink. I don't know how all of those dead bodies are going to help Liz, either, but there are several interesting ways the writers can now take the story.
The twist on the 2nd shooting in the head was that Red shot her in the same region where Kate had a metal plate installed after the first shooting in the bailiff office! Red did not know she had a plate!
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Well I have to say, Kate makes an excellent villain! she is now unhinged and unpredictable and dangerous.
I for one have no idea what else she has up her sleeve, and very interested to find out!
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I don't think Kate is unhinged at all. Her main aim is to take Red and his violent world out of Liz's life. The shutting down of the task force and the arrest and conviction of Raymond Reddington is what she's trying to accomplish. She's willing to give testimony, and even sacrifice herself, to get him out of Liz and Agnes's lives.
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Not sure what all I think right now. I wish they had stayed in line with the other stuff they had out there.
So she went to Nova Scotia and applied to be a nanny and she knew KR first. Didn't know Red yet and didn't even like him at the time.
lara1 summed up in #38 the rest of what I was thinking.
I do think that Joanna Alder did an excellent job playing the part of young Kaplan.
I missed the first few minutes but could hear the funeral, I thought it was a commercial and went into the kitchen for some tea......
I am not sure of what kind of ending we are going to get from all this? It is a 2 part coming up about her.
21 is Mr. Kaplan and 22 is the Conclusion.