Honey West - excellent idea!!!

I re-watched the Independence USA episode today.   And three things stood out to me, two new, one old:

1.  The Russian woman who kind of freaks out at the "birthday party" and doesn't want to do the spy thing any more - and she is rounded up and sent packing (somewhere!) - the scene where she is taken away occurs in the high school gym, and she is wearing a sweater that is basically an American flag, and the camera shot of her as she is taken away has a very large US flag prominently behind her.  It made me think - did Katerina have a similar threat, at some point try to back out of some mission?  Involving the "American"?

2.  The previous episode ends with Scottie watching video of the children's birthday party and the cake and candles being blown out and Christopher is also featured.  I think there were balloons.  Cut to the very next episode, Independence, and one of the big American "test scenes" is a birthday party complete with balloons and cake and candles bein blown out, happy birthday sung etc.  Interesting juxtaposition that hadn't occurred to me the first time around.  I wonder if there is something to this idea of Scottie being a dopplegager...and having an American  birthday party just as it would have been rehearsed.....hmmmm

3.  Tom tells that story to his "wife" at the birthday party - of how he knew when he knew she was in love with him - some story about ice cream in the snow - delivered off the cuff, made me wonder whether his story to Liz with the dust on the shoes and how he then knew Liz loved him was real or made up.  And, coupled with him being at the fake "birthday party" which in turn followed the video of the children's party that Christopher was at - wouldn't it be a wild twist if Tom was a doppelgänger - and that's why he really failed the Major's test - he replaced the real Tom.  

Well probably not the case at all - a bit of a stretch even for TBL - but I keep thinking that those two birthday party scenes are telling us something....maybe about Tom, maybe about Scottie.....

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Tatiana #64 - good observation on how Tom really slid into that birthday party scenario effortlessly.  Of course we know he is expert at assuming other identities - but I agree, its almost like he had done something very similar to the birthday scenario before - or been trained for it - was he actually recalling that, or making it up on the fly?  To me, even his "wife" seemed a bit startled by what he said and how natural it seemed the way he made it up....

I have to admit there are moments more generally where It think the whole Tom scenario is a big con and its all a massive undercover "cover" - to maybe get more info on Red, or some other reason.  In this theory, he (Tom) deliberately blew the "Cuba cover" so that would get them all back into Red's world.  Just IMO re that theory of course.  TPTB don't really say anything to remotely support that, but it would be a great twist if it turns out to be the case.

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So, in re-watching Operation Davenport, Howard tells Tom that he first saw Whitehall as a line item in a black ops budget and referred to a warehouse in South Africa.  That wasn't explored further - still suspicious of Scottie - what if she had Whitehall first, Howard found out, then "stole" it from her and she has been trying to get it back ever since.  And what if Scottie's motives were not all that "pure".

then in Ep 6, Hostages, which I am currently watching, once Scottie has Howard in the hospital room, he does say to her that "I know who you really are" and I "know what you've done".  An then says something about Whitehall.  Supposedly this is a private conversation between the two of them.  So I'm thinking we can take what howard is saying as how he really sees it? Sees Scottie as an evil manipulator, an enemy, not just someone he is trying to hoodwink and steal from.  hmmmm

I pay a lot of attention to the color red in these shows and who wears it.  I think it symbolizes a connection to Red.  We had Liz in the first couple of seasons wearing a lot of bright red and on her birthday (sharing the red wine with Ressler) she had on a red scarf, which was odd because she really is not a scarf person.  I now notice that Scottie wears a lot of Red - in the pilot, and in several episodes since.

Then there is the dark maroon/bugundy color which Scottie, Katerina and Naomi have all worn.  The sweater/jacket that Katarina took off and left on the beach in Cape May - was very similar, if not identical, to the dark maroon sweater jacket that Naomi wore in the scene where she departs with Frank and leaves Red.  I notice that Scottie has worn that color a couple of times, mainly in scarves, including the deep burgundy scarf that she wore when giving the eulogy at Howard's gravesite.  She wore it as a full on outfit in the season finale.  So - what is the connection among the three women, if any?  Scottie and Naomi look vaguely alike, but not Katarina (at least the version we have seen with red hair).  

Interestingly, I don't really remember seeing Liz wear that color (deep burgundy/maroon), though she may have.

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Honey West wrote:

I don't trust either one of them!

Yes!  remember in the hospital scene when Scottie is torturing Howard, she says that he doesn't have the capacity to understand what the implications of Whitehall could mean.

Not to mention she tortures tom.  which keeps me thinking the son thing is an act of hers, on the one hand she can act the script she has to have concern for him, but she's another person altogether.  Maybe not literally a doppleganger but somehow - conditioned to act and respond in certain ways, while all the time being focused on mission critical. - whatever that is.
 

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