Honey West wrote:

Artax Network. Who'da thought that Howard Hargrave built it. I like how they tie some of these things together. And Whitehall being a person, not a thing or an organization. But why would Whitehall be behind weaponizing Natalie Luca's virus? He's a computer dude. Maybe there is a Whitehall organization as well as this Whitehall person?

Honey West - yes, that did not make sense to me.  Why use the same names?  One for a biological weapon producer, another for what appears to be a mathematical genius.  Maybe we will find out a connection next time.  

BBB - I agree that the acting with the Nez character was very good.  I also think that Ryan was very good and portraying a wide range of emotions in this episode.  I don't particularly love the Tom/Liz love storyline (in TBL) but the actor is good, IMO.

I agree Nez and Samar would be a great team.  They are probably lining up a number of possibilities so they can work things out no matter which way things go (i.e. Redemption renewal or not).

I read somewhere that Famke had something put in her contract to enable her to appear back on TBL.  I don't know if that is true, and I take stuff like that I read with a grain of salt - the only people who know what's in a contract are those who negotiated it and signed it, IMO.  I guess we will see!

And to take #64 one step further - the whole Artax construct could have been an elaborate scheme to get access to US communications etc.  Kind of a back door into the US government.  And, conceivably, Scottie wants Whitehall to combat that.  Which is really why she wanted to know from Tom what Howard knew.  Why else would she need that info - only to prevent him getting hold of it.  Maybe its not just personal.

As to who is what to Tom, Scottie shows such conflicting behavior its hard to tell.  But there is a chance that Tom/Christopher was never really theirs. It is a bit confusing.

But Red did warn Tom not to go seeking answers about his past.   

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I finally got to rewatch a portion of it. Too much buffering, so 30 minutes was all I could take tonight.

No new insights, but I do trust Howard more than Scotty at this point.

My thoughts: If Howard and Red aren't brothers (or relatives), I wonder if they would be on the same side? I think they could find some mutual interests. I wonder what Howard knows about KR, if anything?

Added: I wonder what Mr. Kaplin is up to? Have there been any sightings?

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Tuxie400 wrote:

lara - I still think there's room for Howard to be the bad guy. He may turn out be the real Russian spy. I do think the last two eps have shown Howard to be more emotionally connected to Tom. But what mother lets Solomon beat her son with a sock full of pool balls? That's pretty hard to forgive. I liked this show better when I thought neither Scottie or Howard knew what Whitehall was and some third party was involved.

Tuxie400, I keep thinking Howard is too good to be true. I think Tom is going to end up getting a nasty surprise.

You know, I think my opinion about Scottie and Howard has little to do with this show, and everything to do with their previous roles. I loved Terry O'Quinn on Lost and disliked Famke when she had a recurring role years ago on Allie McBeal. I just want to trust Howard because of our "previous relationship." LOL Of course, he did turn out to be the evil smoke monster on Lost.

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Are you saying, what if Howard and Scotty are both "substitutes"?

Yikes! Now that would be a Blacklist thing to do . . .

Last edited by IowaWatcher (4/07/2017 10:25 pm)

Iowa Watcher - well that's one possibility - one or both of them (Howard, Scottie) are substitutes and don't have any real feelings for each other.

But what I'm now wondering is whether Howard is completely playing Tom, setting him up as his son when he's not.

Of course Howard could just be the bad guy, and Tom really is his son, and Howard is just not emotionally connected to him, or otherwise using him for his own agenda, which could include getting back at Scottie.

I have had so many thoughts cross my mind during this show I cannot even count them all !

It has crossed my mind that HH could also be a double because nothing is as it seams on this show either. lol But Red did say he had known him to Tom.

The one Big thing to me I keep meaning to mention is did anyone else notice that back when HH showed Tom his wall of stuff that the 2 stickers he used for the place in Africa where red and green and the one for Whitehall was blue?
The map Red showed Liz, he told her the cabal is in green, their affiliates are in red and their competition is in blue. I wonder is if there is any connection and just how much contact Red and HH have had?






 

Last edited by Eastcoast (4/07/2017 11:26 pm)

lara1 - Famke was the mother of Larry's (Robert Downey Jr.) son. I just loved Larry and Allie together - too bad about his drug problems during the show.