I do like Redemption and I will be sad to see it end.
Can't wait to see what they do next.

Eastcoast - I am so glad that you mentioned that as I missed it!  Since we watch TV after 10pm on reduced volume sometimes little things get missed, which is why I need to re-watch at normal volume!  And when I re-watch I normally switch off before the promo as I've already seen it.  So I would have totally missed that!  thanks!

I agree that the series has got very good.  It took a few episodes to find its legs, but now I feel that it has its groove and its very good.

I agree its the best series currently on TV - the long=running Criminal Minds and NCIS are too formulaic. BLR is definitely NOT formulaic.
Main problem is being caught between internal and external story-lines and having them constantly conflict. Pretty hard to resolve in the writing room but they're  doing a fairly good job so far. .
Non patternized TV dramas tend to get the axe no matter how much critical acclaim, great acting and riveting productions they generate. Witness - my all-time favorite 'Person of Interest'. Designated Survivor is also very good and non-traditional - thus its probably in jeopardy, too!

So Howard says to Scottie:“I know who you are and I know what you’ve done.”  hmmm

And that kind of sounds like what the Director said to Red, something like "I know who you are Raymond....who you are to her.  And I know why you've done this."

So I wonder, if we find out that Scottie is really someone else, is that a further clue re Red.

Well when I re-watch the episode this weekend I'll be looking for all sort of little clues!

I have been wondering about the ventilator myself because they have not showed anything else about it. What was weird to ME is that it really wasn't very hidden. The door was open a bit and you would have to be deaf not to hear it.

So, I was thinking is it possible that Whitehall was a part of this sleeper project?  Maybe the vent person was there?  Or there are other vent people? I know that is a bit out there, but....It looks like she had someone killed so they would not tell Howard what it was.  She told Howard he didn't have the capacity to understand the consequences of what it could be. (?)
I did notice that in the previews it shows Howard back in his suit and looking like he is in charge!!
 

This is a great discussion! I had never thought of the ventilator and Whitehall and a sleeper project....hmmm.

I posted this on THRUSHES: 
"Did anyone think there was a similarity (in creepiness!) between The Apothecary and Cypress Agency? Hightower kept his wife sedated so that he could impregnate her against her will. In the same way, the women who were abducted, were kept in a coma-type state and inseminated repeatedly to become pregnant against their will.

In some ways it makes me think of Nazi Germany and the "Lebensborn", a state program promoting 'superior' children who were created not out of love from their parents, but simply for their genetics/superior race. Many of them became orphans, were fathered by Nazi war criminals, and their mother's vowed to loyalty to the SS.




 

I do wonder why Harold is talking to Howard in the promo. Does Liz get the task force involved after Tom calls her?  Or is there another, deeper reason. Intriguing!😚

Blacklist: Redemption is a tribute to TV drama series where there isn't a definitive "STAR", like Blacklist where James Spader carried the show for at least the first 2 seasons.
In Redemption the weight of the series is almost equally distributed by a variant cast - the core of which are all experienced hands but never really starred in their own series.
Obviously Ryan Eggold and Famke carried the initial burden but Edi Gathegi quickly picked up the slack. One cannot discount the ever-increasing contributions of the suddenly-nuanced Tawny Cypress's Nez character plus the rapid-fire insertions of unique charcters like Howard as played by the very versatile Terry O'Quinn and the unique thespian playing Dumont.
The focus in this series is more on the team, less on the black-listers and various criminals they encounter. Gives everyone a chance to shine - and shine they do!

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Tatiana wrote:

BBB - yes, and given the limitations of an 8 week show, that was a good call on the producers/showrunners/writers, etc.

Recently I have wondered, wow, can you imagine Tawny Cypress portraying Liz Keen????  Liz was originally supposed to be a kind of emotionally distant, volatile, latch-key, street smart kid, with occasional outbursts. What we got in Megan Boone was a sweetheart, adorable, pretty, very attractive, kind of soft-spoken character which doesn't mesh with the written character Liz. 

It might have made a lot more sense.

Wow - Tatiana - that's a very unique tribute to Tawny - without demeaning Megan.
If anyone has been a so-called 'Breakout Star' on Redemption it certainly has to be Tawny Cypress.

On Blacklist she just played 2nd banana to the chief killer (Solomon) and was very one dimensional (other than a couple short scenes she was shown taking extra care of the kidnapped Agnes)

Her nuanced Nez, who's forming a bond with Tom but still works will under Scottie and with her partner Mattias has been a revelation.

Less so, Adrian Martinez's Dupont. I'm sure Adrian will use this series to buff his resume for future engagements.

Patter wrote:

I actually fell asleep somewhere in the middle of this episode, but woke to Howard tell Scottie that Tom is their son.  Perfect timing!  I just watched the promo for this week and it looks amazing!!! Interesting to me that Howard and Harold don't know each other, but both know Red. I wonder if they'll sip on a few brewskies while sharing stories about our beloved Red. One can dream, right? 

Oh my!  You must have been very tired!  Glad you woke up in time for that!! lol
 

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