A note on the fingerprint thing and Ressler.

So Red seemed truly surprised by the fingerprint thing.

I've thought from time to time if Ressler was actually in place to "protect" Red (using that word a little loosely), or reporting to someone behind the scenes who is.    Given that he (Ressler) could  never even get close enough to get a photo of Red and that despite Anslo Garrick giving very detailed info, Red somehow alluded Ressler in Brussels (and I think he (Red) said he "knew about" Brussels, meaning I think Red had prior knowledge that the (then) task force was going to take him down).  So Ressler, or someone he is working with is secretly protecting Red?

Is that how the fingerprints came back with no one in the database?  interesting.

Last edited by lara1 (4/27/2017 11:08 pm)

So - thinking some more about those fingerprints led me to thinking about the prints that were (mysteriously in my view) ordered to be placed in Red's file in 1989.  And his address was given as Blacksburg, Virginia for those prints in the file.  I won't get into why those prints were placed in that file in 1989 of all dates.  Just the address

So - then I got to thinking about fire house.  Since it was downtown, is is possible it was Blacksburg?  Impossible to say, but if you spend some time googling downtown Blacksburg real estate and focus on the images part of the search results, there are several groups of townhomes that look like the row of homes in the TV news report on the fire.  Would need a screenshot to compare them one to one, but I wonder if we will find a match if we do.   

Last edited by lara1 (4/28/2017 12:05 am)

lara1 wrote:

Tuxie400 wrote:

BBB - Demington is my favorite ship! It was so sad to hear Red say Dembe is his only friend. I wonder what's in the box.

 

yes.  well hopefully we won't find out for a long time.   
 

 
Hopefully it's nobody's head.

I like it when the show moves the stories along.

Some comments in no particular order:
Poor Marvin. He just can't catch a break. But that is the price for working for Reddington. Both Marvin and Red pointed out that their relationships are basically just business. Red makes them a lot of money, favors are done on both sides, but they are not really his friends. What we see is what happened to Dr. Nik. A favor is done, money changes hands, more favors are required, it gets deeper each time until you are over your head into Red's World. But Marvin wrapped up with pallet wrap and fastened to a light post. Funny! We used to do that to people in our office. One time we wrapped a coworker to her chair. It was almost frightening because you really can't move at all!

Red and Dembe. Awwww. When it comes right down to it Red is probably the loneliest guy on the planet. Self-imposed or a victim of circumstance? Either way, it is sad, and he knows it. But I think we got a hint of what it's really all about during their  somewhat one-sided conversation when Red said, "at the end of the day it's just business. In service of what? The safety, security, the health and well-being of the ones we love?" He also says that someday he and Dembe will be not co-workers, but cohorts. I get the feeling he meant more than protecting Liz, and I'm going back to my old idea that what Red "does" is that he and his organization are a sort of anti-Cabal. Both say they keep the world safe for the greater good of everyone. But it's probably a system of checks and balances that keep,the world from drifting into total chaos and destruction. Just a thought, of course, it could be that it is all for Liz after all.

Liz and Kaplan. I think Liz realizes that Kate is telling her more truth than Red ever has. Or that she has ever felt that he has. I think the affirmation was the thing that swayed her. Kate obviously doesn't think Liz or the FBI can protect her from Red. And Liz is yet another person that Kate tells to just walk away from Raymond. Last week she told Katarina that  she needed to leave the American. Tonight she tells Liz to "do what your mother never had the courage to do, until it was too late. Walk away from Raymond."

Red and Liz. Interesting conversation there with still a lot to resolve. "Finding out truths about who you really are is never easy." And I don't think she was talking about Tom.

Julian Gale. He's an interesting character. Puts himself right into the scene of the crime. Feels infinite guilt over getting those people killed.wants justice? We'll see how he plays out.

RedIsMyCoPilot wrote:

When did Ressler ever work with Harry Roat, Jr.  from WAIT UNTIL DARK?

It wasn't shown in the series, but the two men worked together on the original FBI task force that was set up to catch Red. The irony in Season 1 was Ressler going from hunting Red to working for him via the secret task force.


 

Gale had me a little . He had tears in his eyes and a few slowly sliding down his cheek (at least that's what my eyes saw) when he was reenacting the Diane Fowler scene. Wonder if that could be his mommy dearest? Or maybe he really respected her? Something had him focused on her body over any of the other 85 bodies. (I cracked up that they said 86 bodies about 10 times during the 42 minutes). 

The music during the Kaplan and Liz scene was weird. It almost killed the reveal for me.  

So glad to see Dembe up and ready to move. Guessing they enjoyed their last supper before the Kaplan takedown.

I have a feeling we'll have a present day Katarina or possibly Dom pulling the Kaplan strings. Or that's what I'm hoping for at least. 

I asked last week what is Samar's purpose again? She was hand-picked by Red, so I hope the fingerprint not coming back was her doings. The show writers have really built this ungrateful bitter brat character, and she delivers it perfectly, but I like the badass Samar with a little gentle side. I also could see Cooper and/or Aram assisting with the fingerprint. We still don't know the whole backstory of Red and Cooper and Cooper doesn't want any of his team to wind up in jail. And we all know Aram would just through hoops for Red. 

 

lara1 wrote:

So - thinking some more about those fingerprints led me to thinking about the prints that were (mysteriously in my view) ordered to be placed in Red's file in 1989.  And his address was given as Blacksburg, Virginia for those prints in the file.  I won't get into why those prints were placed in that file in 1989 of all dates.  Just the address

So - then I got to thinking about fire house.  Since it was downtown, is is possible it was Blacksburg?  Impossible to say, but if you spend some time googling downtown Blacksburg real estate and focus on the images part of the search results, there are several groups of townhomes that look like the row of homes in the TV news report on the fire.  Would need a screenshot to compare them one to one, but I wonder if we will find a match if we do.   

Yes, I wondered why those prints were put in Reddington's file in 1989 and he was listed at being from Blacksburg. Were the fingerprints in the file really Reddington's to begin with? Maybe the fire was in Blacksburg. There's no way to know, unless the show verifies it.
 

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Patter wrote:

Gale had me a little . He had tears in his eyes and a few slowly sliding down his cheek (at least that's what my eyes saw) when he was reenacting the Diane Fowler scene. Wonder if that could be his mommy dearest? Or maybe he really respected her? Something had him focused on her body over any of the other 85 bodies. (I cracked up that they said 86 bodies about 10 times during the 42 minutes). 
 

Patter - Gale did seem very emotionally invested in the Fowler investigation. I think he must have some personal connection to her. And he seems to have a lot of guilt over the people he tried to turn that Red killed. He doesn't seem at all like your stereotypical FBI agent. I guess Ressler will continue to work with him, so he can spy for Cooper, Red, and the task force. 
 

Tuxie400 wrote:

lara1 wrote:

Tatiana - insightful summary of what is going on re good vs bad and loyalties.  
And its interesting that Red is under siege and a lot of collateral damage being done, whereas Red has a moral compass that he abides by and you can say a lot of "bad" he does is for the greater good.  Doesn't mean its not bad , though

Tuxie400 - do you think that slip up with Kate re remembering the last time she was with Agnes is further clue as to the state of her memory?  It might be.  

Another episode to re-watch for sure.

Kaplan's slip-up about Agnes was the only thing in this episode that I noticed that would indicate Kaplan has a memory problem or muddled thinking. But you may be right about her intentionally pointing out what she tried to do for Liz in helping her escape. Or ... we're in an alternate reality. LOL 
 

 
My take on her not telling about the real last time she saw Agnes was because maybe  she didn't want to say, oh, the last time I had Agnes we were in a nasty auto accident, where she could have been killed. Maybe she felt that Liz really didn't need to hear that one. Either that or she forgot it as a result of that accident. Weren't they all knocked out for a bit? 

I think Red's tentacles have now extended to Movabi & Ressler - plus Aram has earned his spot w/ Reddington. Harold has been condensed to the cartoon-like 'Voice of Authority', now in slight fear of that Texas-accented woman.

What has become of Tom - and Team Tom w/ Nez & Solomon? Also, is there a future role for Janet/Elise. Annie "Oakley" Heise is such a wonderful screen presence - not as deep, dark & dour as the plot requires. If I were writing I'd have her dying around Ep. 18, perhaps saving Samar's life - in front of Aram, to boot . . .