Tatiana wrote:

Good observations, Tuxie. I had attributed all religious items as part of the good/evil theme, but you are far more specific and it makes me think then of the painting sent to Red: we know Liz killed her father the night of the fire, she says so when her memories are induced, and Red confirms it. The painting would confirm it too and thus that the bones in the suitcase belong to her real father, Raymond Reddington. 

If Raymond Reddington, a counter intelligence spy who is so well regarded and on a super track career path, if he was killed, there would have been an investigation. And if there was an investigation, a lot of things would have been revealed about both the Russians and the Americans and our counter intelligensia. 

They had to bury Raymond Reddington and they had to have 'Red' assume his identity. But who is Red? I don't know. Maybe if someone does find out that those are the real Raymond Reddington's bones, the truth about Faux Red, Fred, would also be revealed. 

 

Tatiana - I don't know Liz killed her father that night.  I'm less sure than ever now about her memories in Tom Connolly - especially with the Bogdan Krilov bombshell that he manipulated her memory a second time shortly before the Connolly killing.  It's never really clear what Red is confirming with his "yeah" when Liz tells him about those memories coming back at the end of the Connolly episode. The confirmation could have been to the last thing she said, "That's why you blocked my memory - not to protect yourself. To protect me."   Later in Lady Ambrosia, Red says, "You mother was never the same after that. The man she loved killed by the child she adored - it was just too much." That seems like a confirmation. But was it just playing on what she already believed - kind of like what he's doing now with since she thinks he's her father. The biggest question of all is: Does Red lie to Liz? We used to trust that rule - not so much anymore. It seems to me the rule that trumps all his others is: "“I believe I will always do whatever I feel I have to do to keep you alive..”  If that involves misleading her, he'll do it.
 

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Tatiana - I like your connection with mole and deep,dark holes, digging holes, and tunnels.

Sorry lara1 - I didn't realize Tatiana was quoting you about the mole connections. I like them.

should we move discussions to the hiatus thread?

I wonder if a burn notice wasn't issued for Red in 1994 that violated some agreement he had with the U.S. government.

A "burn notice" is an official statement issued by an intelligence agency to other agencies. It states that an asset or intelligence source is unreliable.  This is essentially a directive for the recipient to disregard or "burn" all information derived from that individual and disavow all knowledge of the operative. Sometimes an assassination order on the operative will follow the burn notice.

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Tuxie400 wrote:

I wonder if a burn notice wasn't issued for Red in 1994 that violated some agreement he had with the U.S. government.

 

Tuxie, I had wondered that except for the Fulcrum.  Do we know exactly when they knew he had it for sure?  I know the night of the fire they spoke of it but FItch gave me the impression that they would not do anything because they knew what he had. 

​Speaking of Fitch, I have been bothered a long time by what he said to Red and I keep forgetting to ask.  He said That they could have took him anytime because they always know where he is.  He said he was walking in the park that morning and they could have killed him then.  He was not in the park that morning!  
 

Tuxie, I thought he had flown straight to the post office by Donald and then was captured that morning?

 

Tuxie, I think they were in Germany which was the next day. Then took Red's plane back over here.  It is a little over 9 hours to fly here from there.  But you are right, I guess his point was he could always find him. 

I never got back to the comments related to sweetheart. Garvey called Liz darling, and Greyson Blaise called her sugar.