Eastcoast - Thanks for posting these!  

Uncle theory - The uncle theory has floated about for some time.  In most incarnations, Red is Katarina's brother with Dom as the father. But t's certainly possible that Katarina's mother was married to another person and had a son in that marriage.

Surrogate father - Garvey and the Caretaker were examples of this kind of father figure. Although I always felt Red's actions and reactions about Liz were parental, I now consider the surrogate father a definite possibility. Bokenkamp has clarified that real dead RR is Liz's father, and I believe him.  So, short of Red being Katarina, the surrogate father is my next best guess.

Two men named Raymond Reddington -  For a long time, I've believed the spy concept of Identity Transfer is involved somehow in the BL mystery. Red could have been a double for RR in some of their counterintelligence operations. Think Berlin and fake Berlin. I think it's a possibility Raymond is our imposter's real first name. Real Berlin was Milos Kirchoff and fake Berlin was Milo, or Milos Kinsky.  I always thought it strange that they shared the similar first names. Also, In the Sutton Ross episode, the concept of identity transfer was employed when several white vans were dispatched with all having an RR look-alike with bags on their heads.

I can actually see a scenario where the second Raymond is a surrogate father to Liz because she is his replacement daughter for ballerina girl who died. I still believe that Flora Segunda book so prominently displayed in the cabin where Red stashed Naomi, is a clue. Flora Segunda was a replacement daughter.  I also think that Red, if not Katarina. does have guilty conscience about something to do with Katarina and Liz, and I believe that it involved grifters or con men.

 





 

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Thanks for starting this post! It's a good one. 

Ok, I just looked up a list of movies with super crazy plot twists who give away the spoiler endings but if you're not into freaky movies, you probably wouldn't want to watch them anyway. The list is interesting and includes things like people who are being drugged by the government, people who are dying and the plot is all in their heads, people who see dead people lol, people who are pursuing Russian spies but it turns out they are the russian spy, and a lot of people who find that everytime they try to find the 'answers' there's a slew of dead bodies in their wake.
Ok, weird, but there's some interesting ideas for possible TBL endings :-D
By the way, you can always just look at the titles before reading the twist endings.

https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/movie-spoilers-twist-endings-plot-twists
 

“An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge”

I was going to post a long list of questions before tonight's premiere, but I just haven't had any time at all to get to it!

Meanwhile, I have to say they all revolved around the One Big Question that I had after 5.22:

Of all the places he could have gone and with all of his resources for making a permanent disposal, why did Red choose to go to Dom's place and burn the bones? With Dom and Dembe present. Obviously, they know the history of the bones. But why go there to do it? As far as the relationship between Dom and Red, I tend to lean towards Oleander being like the Major, in a way, running a school for spies. Taking in the grifters, and pickpockets, and scam artists, and using their skills to make them into the best agents possible. Sort of like a Fagin for spies. Was he a double-agent? Or did he defect? Who did Dom really work for? They've never said it, but I suspect Sam knew Dom pretty well, too. Katarina said that Red and Sam knew each other and he was the only one they both trusted. I just figure that Sam also knew Dom in some way. Red said to Liz that he knew Sam most of his life and all of hers. Maybe Dom and Katarina fit in there as well. 

I like all the comments from the Johns and Spader about how the current Red had been "Raymond Reddington" longer than the real Raymond Reddington had been. And he was far more interesting than the original. I think that goes along with Red's statement that he became what they always said he was. I guess that was when he assumed the identity of RR. Maybe he was a double for the real RR at some point. Did he know Naomi as his previous identity? Maybe for a time? "You look different." "Not as different as you."

So many questions. But JB assures us that when we know who he really is and why he came into Liz's life, the story is over. And I'm still not in any hurry to know the truth just yet. It's way too much fun to watch them get there.

Honey West - I was happy to see one of the posters for this season including Dom's photo. So he definitely will part of this season.  I like the idea of him being a Fagin for spies!

Honey West wrote:

Hmmmm, Tuxie400, maybe Dom is the key to getting Red out of prison??

 
HW, that would be a fun thing to watch!

Actually,  I had a brief flashback of Smokey with his Elephants.  Whatever it is I'm sure it will be fun to watch.

Eastcoast wrote:

I was thinking about the Con Man theory.
In Sutton Ross Red said he did not sell the Dodo to the Chinese. Dembe said that Ross doesn't know that.

So the first RR actually had a bit of Con Man in him as a spy as spies often do. JB said he was a pencil pusher. Something with that doesn't sound right?

Agreed.  This idea that the original RR was just a pencil pusher doesn't seem right to me.
 

Tuxie,  For now, I think he is an imposter.  Things can change in this show.  He still sounds a bit like a slippery fish to me.  Lol.  He will not answer most questions direct.  I noticed he will say, 'well, let me say this' or 'let me put it this way'. 
JB also told us if we knew who was in the suitcase the show would be over.  

We have not seen a DNA test.  I still wonder if the bones were switched at some point.  As soon as Pete said a tooth, I didn't know if I should believe him because of all the stuff we saw about planting DNA in other people in season 1.   Not to mention that I hit the rewind button about 5 times and I did Not see a single tooth missing from that skull.  That also made me wonder if they were switched.   
And yes, I think you are right that teeth seam to be a reoccurring thing in this show. 


 

Tuxie, I just remember it was after the season 4 finale in one of the interviews. 
When I get back from RL later, I will poke around.

I recently lost a huge list of notes!   

Eastcoast wrote:

Tuxie,  For now, I think he is an imposter.  Things can change in this show.  He still sounds a bit like a slippery fish to me.  Lol.  He will not answer most questions direct.  I noticed he will say, 'well, let me say this' or 'let me put it this way'. 
JB also told us if we knew who was in the suitcase the show would be over.  
 

I just want to be certain, you are referring to the person we know as Raymond Reddington?