The Blacklist Refugees » Ian Garvey, who is he and how did he know about the bones?

Eastcoast · 1/25/2018 2:37 am

So I have to wonder if Garvey has a past connection to Red or just knows of him?

Tom get a suitcase with bones.
When the DNA is entered Garvey is tipped by it as if he has waited for this moment.

He wears a tie and dresses nice (except that t-shirt scene i would like to forget about) and his gun is holstered in the front. He is not hiding it.

He seams to have no end to gathering up some thugs to help him with his dirty work.

On the night stand when he answered the phone he has a watch, phone and what looks like a wallet. Except it was not like a regular wallet. I think he is a detective or something of that nature because it looks like a badge clipped to it.

Need your thoughts on this.

Lara1, I could not get any better of the watch for you, sorry ....

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lara1 · 1/25/2018 12:41 pm

Eastcoast, thanks for this, I hadn't noticed the wallet in detail as I was mesmerized by the "Red" watch. LOL

Someone on this board had mentioned a little while ago whether Garvey could be a dirty cop, due to that theme coming up so far in a couple of ways this season. I don't know, maybe those suggestions are now done with Prescott out of the way. Garvey still could be law enforcement, or ex-law enforcement. Maybe, like Admiral Richards, his career dried up after Red did whatever Red did way back when. Or otherwise injured, maybe left for dead by Red

Or, he could have just heard about the "legend". That remark of Garvey's made me think he heard about fire night maybe from someone else, like Braxton did from The Director. Braxton knew Red from their encounters in the past, but really came after him when Red got in the way of Braxton and the fulcrum.

I don't know, in some ways Garvey's mission seems personal. In others, he seems like an opportunist - looking to cash in on what he can't believe is his good luck in someone tapping into CODIS.

So, in other words, I have no idea! LOL

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Eastcoast · 1/26/2018 1:52 am

lara1, I think that was me.

Speaking of Braxton, I keep wondering exactly what the information is they had at that blacklist site?
Red told Liz that what he would discover was that he couldn't find the Fulcrum with her. So are we to think that the information about KR, the fire and a little girl was on file there?

Eastcoast · 2/07/2018 9:19 pm

He has a badge folks!!! They are all in it together!

Honey West · 2/08/2018 1:07 am

I think your original assessment was pretty spot on, Eastcoast! He had access to information that only someone in law enforcement or the spy biz could have. Who dos he really work for indeed!

Eastcoast · 2/08/2018 9:57 am

That is the question, is he the head of this group or is there someone higher?
I was having doubts about the cop seeing Liz but wasn't certain. I wonder if Liz will know if he broke into her apartment? And what will Red do about that? I feel his days are numbered!
So now we know Garvey has known her every move! What has he been hoping to learn by following her?

I suppose that is who called Garvey to let her know he was back?

Tuxie400 · 2/08/2018 12:11 pm

Eastcoast - It wasn't Singleton's voice that called Garvey to report she was back. The voice sounded more like the internal affairs cop in The Informant. Garvey's shown at the head of the table in his group meeting. I wonder if this isn't a new cabal of dirty law enforcement.

IowaWatcher · 2/09/2018 10:45 am

Here's a wild thought: Garvey ultimately answers to . . . KR!

LOL!

2/09/2018 10:55 am

That would definitely be an interesting twist to have Garvey working for Katarina. I would enjoy that.

Tuxie400 · 2/09/2018 11:45 am

Iowa Watcher - Interesting thought!

2/09/2018 11:47 am

I know we've seen the class ring that is similar to the one in the fire scene and it has the Navy emblem on it, but I wonder if it is important? We aren't expected to be zooming in on scenes like that and analyzing the little things. Sometimes a ring is just a ring.

lara1 · 2/09/2018 1:08 pm

Interesting thoughts, Iowa Watcher.

Brittany - I agree, and the general audience would not zoom in on things. But I do think we are going to get some kind of fire reveal -whether or not that will involve Garvey I guess we'll find out. Or maybe we are not getting a fire reveal, maybe its just building up to a huge fire scene - which I think will happen whether or not we get a reveal about THE fire. I do think its clear though that Garvey possibly has some kind of military ring, but yes it wouldn't be confirmed, nor the type known, without enlarging it. Which again, most of the audience isn't doing.

Doesn't stop me though, LOL!!

2/09/2018 2:45 pm

The stone looks (from the pictures I’ve seen) to be a different color than the one from the fire. Ive tended to think of a connection to Red’s time in the Navy (if there’s a connection at all).

Honey West · 2/09/2018 3:57 pm

Maybe Garvey had something to do with Red during Red's Naval career? I can’t find an age for Jonny Coyne anywhere so we can’t really gauge how old Garvey is supposed to be by his age.
Red has helped several,people go,into hiding, claiming he can protect them better than anyone else. Some, like Naomi, were in Witness Protection, for all the good that did them. Garvey is a Marshall. He would probably have access to info about those people until Red stole them away. The bones give him power over Red (or Red's empire/mission or whatever), but he hasn’t used them yet that we know of. Why? I wonder if we will find out who he really works for when we find out who the bones belong to? I have a feeling we may not get that answer yet, or else it will be a really big surprise at the end of the season. So we will scratch our heads all summer over that reveal.

Iowa, that’s a great idea! I had the idea that Kate believed Katarina to be dead and that those were her bones. But suppose her actually being alive is a secret that Red kept even from Kate. In fact having Kate believe it was important to it being kept a secret. Revealing the bones to not be Katarina would blow that secret right out of the water. But that brings up the question of what was Kate really trying to,prove with them to Liz about why Red came into her life if she assumed the bones were Katarina's?

2/09/2018 4:05 pm

Honey West- I’ve had the same thought before about Kate believing they were KR’s bones and it not be them. I had also wondered in the past if Red was the one who was supposed to believe they were KR’s bones and that Kaplan had helped KR fake her death to get away from Red’s fury. But I tend to think Red and Kate both knew exactly who is in the suitcase and what kind of problems it would cause for it to be revealed.

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Tuxie400 · 2/09/2018 5:25 pm

I also think both Red and Kaplan knew the identity of the bones. Now with Dom as Oleander linked to them, I am really stumped.

lara1 · 2/09/2018 5:39 pm

Tuxie400 wrote:
I also think both Red and Kaplan knew the identity of the bones. Now with Dom as Oleander linked to them, I am really stumped.

Tuxie400. Ditto. Everything

I have even more questions now. Lol

Eastcoast · 2/10/2018 2:18 am

Like we have said before, we get 1 answer and have 10 more questions! lol

2/12/2018 9:16 am

The Toymaker mentioned that he had very complex conversations about technology with Garvey (we are assuming it was Garvey who employed him to make the eye, correct?). I wonder if (or how) that will come into play with the overall storyline.

Tuxie400 · 2/12/2018 9:29 am

Brittany - I would expect Garvey's advanced surveillance techniques to come into play as the story unfolds. And I really, really hope that will mean Tadashi will be helping Liz and Red thwart his efforts. Because Tadashi is my absolute favorite new character this season.

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